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I don't understand your logic unless you're implicitly saying the camera needs to go away, but then you should say so (so that I can properly disagree with you)

I don't understand your logic unless you're implicitly saying the camera needs to go away, but then you should say so (so that I can properly disagree with you). The notch makes for a smaller menu bar but without the notch there would be no menu bar there, it would take the space underneath instead.

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troupo 1y ago
> I don't understand your logic unless you're implicitly saying the camera needs to go away Yup. We never had camera before the notch. > The notch makes for a smaller menu bar but without the notch there would be no menu bar there Yup. Before the notch we neither had a menu bar that could comfortably fit most menu items even in professional apps, nor did we have a camera. BTW, you literally are saying "The notch makes for a smaller menu bar". Imagine if I wrote that as the first sentence in my comment, then there would be no misunderstanding
- ylk 1y ago
  The screen is a 16:10 screen with some extra pixels added next to the notch. By default, the system uses a resolution of 1512x982 (14"), which you can change to 1512x945 (16:10) to move the menu bar below the notch and end up with black pixels next to the notch.
  - troupo 1y ago
    "If you go make weird contortions and workarounds you might just find a semi-working non-solution to a problem that didn't exist until Apple introduced it". Also my response here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44909996 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44909996
- Yokolos 1y ago
  What MacBook doesn't have a camera?
  - microtonal 1y ago
    They are being sarcastic because the parent post put forward a false dichotomy between a notch and a camera or no notch but no camera.
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    - monsieurbanana 1y ago
      I didn't think this would be so hard to understand. It's not a false dichotomy, without the notch the screen would have to be smaller to have the camera there. You didn't lose any pixels.

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troupo 1y ago

> I don't understand your logic unless you're implicitly saying the camera needs to go away Yup. We never had camera before the notch. > The notch makes for a smaller menu bar but without the notch there would be no menu bar there Yup. Before the notch we neither had a menu bar that could comfortably fit most menu items even in professional apps, nor did we have a camera. BTW, you literally are saying "The notch makes for a smaller menu bar". Imagine if I wrote that as the first sentence in my comment, then there would be no misunderstanding

ylk 1y ago
The screen is a 16:10 screen with some extra pixels added next to the notch. By default, the system uses a resolution of 1512x982 (14"), which you can change to 1512x945 (16:10) to move the menu bar below the notch and end up with black pixels next to the notch.
- troupo 1y ago
  "If you go make weird contortions and workarounds you might just find a semi-working non-solution to a problem that didn't exist until Apple introduced it". Also my response here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44909996 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44909996
Yokolos 1y ago
What MacBook doesn't have a camera?
- microtonal 1y ago
  They are being sarcastic because the parent post put forward a false dichotomy between a notch and a camera or no notch but no camera.
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  - monsieurbanana 1y ago
    I didn't think this would be so hard to understand. It's not a false dichotomy, without the notch the screen would have to be smaller to have the camera there. You didn't lose any pixels.