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What software or system did he write that you've used?

by bickfordb 1y ago

jibal 1y ago
Right? Musk isn't any sort of engineer. At most he reviews and comments on the work of engineers.
- WalterBright 1y ago
  His name is on many patents. For many other engineering qualifications and work, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk
  - simgt 1y ago
    Come on, your comments trail shows that you have a lot of experience. You know that being on a patent doesn't make one an inventor, just like being on a peer-reviewed paper doesn't make one a contributor. Yes Musk seems to be a deeply technical person, even Karpathy wrote it somewhere here after he resigned, but these credentials you're citing are not the proof.
    - WalterBright 1y ago
      It's good enough for me. I don't know what proof you're looking for. He's far better than many engineers I've worked with. BTW, I do not have a CS degree.
      - spacechild1 1y ago
        > He's far better than many engineers I've worked with. How do you know that? Have you worked with him?
        WalterBright 1y ago
        Otherwise you'd have to believe he bungled his way into multiple fortunes creating engineering triumphs that outdid the established automakers and NASA.
        spacechild1 1y ago
        You obviously don't need to be an actual engineer to pull this off. Elon Musk provided the vision and the money to assemble a great team of engineers. However, I find it hard to believe he does actual electric car or spacecraft engineering, given he has no education in these fields.
        WalterBright 1y ago
        "Musk had spent months studying the aerospace industry and the physics behind it. From Cantrell and others, he'd borrowed Rocket Propulsion Elements, Fundamentals of Astrodynamics, and Aerothermodynamics of Gas Turbine and Rocket Propulsion, along with several more seminal texts." "Elon Musk" by Vance pg 108 All three of those books are advanced engineering books (I have a copy of each).
        spacechild1 1y ago
        So a biography says he borrowed some books. Do you want me to believe he suddenly became a genius rocket engineer over the course of a few months? With no prior track record or any indication of his supposedly extraordinary talent?
        WalterBright 1y ago
        Hal Finney wouldn't show up for class at Caltech. He'd flip through the textbook at the end of the semester, and ace the final. Yes, there are people like Hal. Not many, but they exist. If you prefer to think that Elon bungled his way into inspiring top people to implement his ideas, and bungled his way into launching payload at 10% of the best cost NASA could do, feel free. P.S. Buy those books, and look through them. They're the real deal.
    - 1vuio0pswjnm7 1y ago
      I recently saw a Tesla from the original company; it was a sports car, nothing like today's lithium battery on wheels After Musk took over Tesla from its original founders one of the original founders sued him in state court in California In the course of the litigation, discovery revealed Musk had lied about his educational credentials The pleadings from the litigation are available: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1zPeWaaCZHqfq0tnkPwc61A6bGHySdj91 https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1zPeWaaCZHqfq0tnkPwc6... https://archive.ph/gzGpF https://archive.ph/gzGpF The evidence presented showed that Musk lied about educational credentials The issue raised is Musk's dishonesty, at most fraud, at least loss of credibility Why did he lie Note Jobs was named on some patents as well For example, "Advertisement in operating system" https://patents.google.com/patent/US20090265214A1/ https://patents.google.com/patent/US20090265214A1/ https://patents.google.com/patent/US8712902B2/ https://patents.google.com/patent/US8712902B2/ https://ppubs.uspto.gov/pubwebapp/ https://ppubs.uspto.gov/pubwebapp/ ("20090265214").pn.
- jibal 1y ago
  Ugh, I have rarely been so disappointed in someone I respected than after reading the comments here by Walter.
WalterBright 1y ago
https://www.google.com/search?q=did+elon+musk+write+software https://www.google.com/search?q=did+elon+musk+write+software

What software or system did he write that you've used?

jibal 1y ago

Right? Musk isn't any sort of engineer. At most he reviews and comments on the work of engineers.

WalterBright 1y ago
His name is on many patents. For many other engineering qualifications and work, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk
- simgt 1y ago
  Come on, your comments trail shows that you have a lot of experience. You know that being on a patent doesn't make one an inventor, just like being on a peer-reviewed paper doesn't make one a contributor. Yes Musk seems to be a deeply technical person, even Karpathy wrote it somewhere here after he resigned, but these credentials you're citing are not the proof.
  - WalterBright 1y ago
    It's good enough for me. I don't know what proof you're looking for. He's far better than many engineers I've worked with. BTW, I do not have a CS degree.
    - spacechild1 1y ago
      > He's far better than many engineers I've worked with. How do you know that? Have you worked with him?
      - WalterBright 1y ago
        Otherwise you'd have to believe he bungled his way into multiple fortunes creating engineering triumphs that outdid the established automakers and NASA.
        spacechild1 1y ago
        You obviously don't need to be an actual engineer to pull this off. Elon Musk provided the vision and the money to assemble a great team of engineers. However, I find it hard to believe he does actual electric car or spacecraft engineering, given he has no education in these fields.
        WalterBright 1y ago
        "Musk had spent months studying the aerospace industry and the physics behind it. From Cantrell and others, he'd borrowed Rocket Propulsion Elements, Fundamentals of Astrodynamics, and Aerothermodynamics of Gas Turbine and Rocket Propulsion, along with several more seminal texts." "Elon Musk" by Vance pg 108 All three of those books are advanced engineering books (I have a copy of each).
        spacechild1 1y ago
        So a biography says he borrowed some books. Do you want me to believe he suddenly became a genius rocket engineer over the course of a few months? With no prior track record or any indication of his supposedly extraordinary talent?
        WalterBright 1y ago
        Hal Finney wouldn't show up for class at Caltech. He'd flip through the textbook at the end of the semester, and ace the final. Yes, there are people like Hal. Not many, but they exist. If you prefer to think that Elon bungled his way into inspiring top people to implement his ideas, and bungled his way into launching payload at 10% of the best cost NASA could do, feel free. P.S. Buy those books, and look through them. They're the real deal.
  - 1vuio0pswjnm7 1y ago
    I recently saw a Tesla from the original company; it was a sports car, nothing like today's lithium battery on wheels After Musk took over Tesla from its original founders one of the original founders sued him in state court in California In the course of the litigation, discovery revealed Musk had lied about his educational credentials The pleadings from the litigation are available: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1zPeWaaCZHqfq0tnkPwc61A6bGHySdj91 https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1zPeWaaCZHqfq0tnkPwc6... https://archive.ph/gzGpF https://archive.ph/gzGpF The evidence presented showed that Musk lied about educational credentials The issue raised is Musk's dishonesty, at most fraud, at least loss of credibility Why did he lie Note Jobs was named on some patents as well For example, "Advertisement in operating system" https://patents.google.com/patent/US20090265214A1/ https://patents.google.com/patent/US20090265214A1/ https://patents.google.com/patent/US8712902B2/ https://patents.google.com/patent/US8712902B2/ https://ppubs.uspto.gov/pubwebapp/ https://ppubs.uspto.gov/pubwebapp/ ("20090265214").pn.
jibal 1y ago
Ugh, I have rarely been so disappointed in someone I respected than after reading the comments here by Walter.

WalterBright 1y ago

https://www.google.com/search?q=did+elon+musk+write+software https://www.google.com/search?q=did+elon+musk+write+software