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> I don't care if someone knows how many times I've watched Idiocracy. I come from Germany, from East Germany. And some people there wanted to know if you had

by qrios 1y ago

> I don't care if someone knows how many times I've watched Idiocracy. I come from Germany, from East Germany. And some people there wanted to know if you had seen certain films and how often. And ‘Idiocracy’ would have been very high up on their list. Not all films were banned right from the start (‘The Legend of Paul and Paula’ [1]), but right from the beginning the Stasi found it very interesting who had watched the film. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Paul_and_Paula https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Paul_and_Paula

callc 1y ago
This. Privacy does not matter until it does. Thanks for your example, qrios
tclancy 1y ago
What if I have recently watched The Lives of Others? (Which everyone in the US should.)
- qrios 1y ago
  ‘The Lives of Others’ is an outstanding film. However, it is a reappraisal of East German history and was made seven years after the collapse (the director grew up in West Germany and Western Europe). US-America has looked at the subject of surveillance of its own population and its own (possible) collapse many times and often in a timely manner. "The Conversation": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Conversation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Conversation "Enemy of the State": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enemy_of_the_State_(film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enemy_of_the_State_(film) "The Siege": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Siege https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Siege "In the Heat of the Night": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_Heat_of_the_Night_(film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_Heat_of_the_Night_(film... "Eagle Eye": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle_Eye https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle_Eye If you ask publicly, ‘What if I've seen XYZ?’ then it's actually already too late.
  - zerocrates 1y ago
    The collapse being the collapse of the DDR? The Lives of Others must have been made way further beyond that than 7 years. Closer to 20, I'd figure.
    - arrowsmith 1y ago
      TLOO came out in 2006, 16 years after the DDR collapsed. I wondered if GP was thinking of another movie so I asked ChatGPT, which told me: "The German film you’re thinking of is "Good Bye, Lenin!" — released in 2003, exactly seven years after the formal end of the DDR in 1990." (My emphasis.) So much for GPT-5.
      - qrios 1y ago
        Right, I missed a whole decade. (For me 1989, the Mauerfall is the official end of GDR)
      - irthomasthomas 1y ago
        That's hilarious. Imagine going back two years and showing someone GPT-5? They might think the Pause AI movement had won. It makes you ponder an alternate timeline where the OpenAI brain trust wasn't dismantled Which version did you use, though? GPT-5, GPT-5-Thinking, GPT-5 Pro, GPT-5-Mini, GPT-5 with Thinking (reasoning effort=high) or one of the other 18 options? Did you tell it to think harder? Maybe you are just holding it wrong?
        bambax 1y ago
        Making what is essentially a router dispatching queries to the smallest engine susceptible to answer a question was maybe a good optimization from a techical and business pont of view. But branding that router "GPT5" is a huge marketing mistake, because now, every time a smaller model says something stupid (as they often do), it seems that's the best OpenAI has to offer...
      - GoblinSlayer 1y ago
- pmarreck 1y ago
  Trivia about that movie: The spying devices used were authentic and from the era depicted.
irthomasthomas 1y ago
Interesting. There isn't one sentence in that article (English) which describes the political controversy of that movie. A single sentence mentions the film almost being banned for its 'political overtones'.
- StopDisinfo910 1y ago
  The English article is incomplete. The banner is there. I guess I could try to complete it but it’s highly my work would be struck out by an angry editor feeling territorial for a reason or another so maybe not. The French article is a bit better - I don’t understand German sadly. The controversy stems from the protagonists values. They put their love for each other and their search for fulfilment above other commitments which was seen as dangerously non communist. The film was cleared by the head of East Germany but the censors still imposed a tragic ending.

by qrios 1y ago

callc 1y ago

This. Privacy does not matter until it does. Thanks for your example, qrios

tclancy 1y ago

What if I have recently watched The Lives of Others? (Which everyone in the US should.)

qrios 1y ago
‘The Lives of Others’ is an outstanding film. However, it is a reappraisal of East German history and was made seven years after the collapse (the director grew up in West Germany and Western Europe). US-America has looked at the subject of surveillance of its own population and its own (possible) collapse many times and often in a timely manner. "The Conversation": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Conversation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Conversation "Enemy of the State": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enemy_of_the_State_(film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enemy_of_the_State_(film) "The Siege": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Siege https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Siege "In the Heat of the Night": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_Heat_of_the_Night_(film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_Heat_of_the_Night_(film... "Eagle Eye": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle_Eye https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle_Eye If you ask publicly, ‘What if I've seen XYZ?’ then it's actually already too late.
- zerocrates 1y ago
  The collapse being the collapse of the DDR? The Lives of Others must have been made way further beyond that than 7 years. Closer to 20, I'd figure.
  - arrowsmith 1y ago
    TLOO came out in 2006, 16 years after the DDR collapsed. I wondered if GP was thinking of another movie so I asked ChatGPT, which told me: "The German film you’re thinking of is "Good Bye, Lenin!" — released in 2003, exactly seven years after the formal end of the DDR in 1990." (My emphasis.) So much for GPT-5.
    - qrios 1y ago
      Right, I missed a whole decade. (For me 1989, the Mauerfall is the official end of GDR)
    - irthomasthomas 1y ago
      That's hilarious. Imagine going back two years and showing someone GPT-5? They might think the Pause AI movement had won. It makes you ponder an alternate timeline where the OpenAI brain trust wasn't dismantled Which version did you use, though? GPT-5, GPT-5-Thinking, GPT-5 Pro, GPT-5-Mini, GPT-5 with Thinking (reasoning effort=high) or one of the other 18 options? Did you tell it to think harder? Maybe you are just holding it wrong?
      - bambax 1y ago
        Making what is essentially a router dispatching queries to the smallest engine susceptible to answer a question was maybe a good optimization from a techical and business pont of view. But branding that router "GPT5" is a huge marketing mistake, because now, every time a smaller model says something stupid (as they often do), it seems that's the best OpenAI has to offer...
    - GoblinSlayer 1y ago
pmarreck 1y ago
Trivia about that movie: The spying devices used were authentic and from the era depicted.

irthomasthomas 1y ago

Interesting. There isn't one sentence in that article (English) which describes the political controversy of that movie. A single sentence mentions the film almost being banned for its 'political overtones'.

StopDisinfo910 1y ago
The English article is incomplete. The banner is there. I guess I could try to complete it but it’s highly my work would be struck out by an angry editor feeling territorial for a reason or another so maybe not. The French article is a bit better - I don’t understand German sadly. The controversy stems from the protagonists values. They put their love for each other and their search for fulfilment above other commitments which was seen as dangerously non communist. The film was cleared by the head of East Germany but the censors still imposed a tragic ending.