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Only consequences, physically speaking the two are not the same at all. Copying of anything digital is not actual theft, nor will it ever be.
by kaliqt 1y ago
Only consequences, physically speaking the two are not the same at all.
Copying of anything digital is not actual theft, nor will it ever be.
- ryandrake 1y ago"You wouldn't download a car!" Wait, I absolutely would download a car if I could... or food... or clothing... I'd download the shit out of physical goods if the technology existed. Who wouldn't? You could solve scarcity. If we had Star Trek Replicators, we'd be living in a literal utopia.
- jiggawatts 1y agoThanks to 3D printing this is starting to become reality and not just science fiction.
- cammikebrown 1y agoThe “download” catchphrase is a joke, it was originally “You wouldn’t steal a car”, which I’d argue is true for most people.
- PenguinCoder 1y agoStealing a car deprives the owner of their product. Privacy does not. They still have access and ownership of it. But now, you do too.
- theshackleford 1y ago> it was originally “You wouldn’t steal a car”, which I’d argue is true for most people. Sure, but it's only true if you stretch the definition of what's occuring. If we stretched it in the other way, in that "stealing" a car in fact left the perfectly fine original right where you found it, the vast majority wouldnt think twice.
- robertoandred 1y agoDo you sneak into concerts or hop turnstiles too?
- viraptor 1y agoThose actually take the resources away (space at the venue for example). In piracy that's not the case.
- nh23423fefe 1y agono true scotsman wordsmithing on theft is the only defense thieves have
- gooosle 1y agoHow dare you steal these hn comments by copying them over to your PC using your browser? Thief!
- withinboredom 1y agoSo long as you’ve paid for it before… maybe not. In many jurisdictions you are entitled to a backup. The fact that you have to pirate it… might be a gray area.
- probotect0r 1y agoOf course it's theft. The owner of that content didn't intend to give it to you for free, they expected to get paid for their work.
- const_cast 1y agoI could copy A New Hope once for every atom in the universe, and no money is lost and the original continues to exist. Theft is moving stuff. You can't move software or digital assets, you can only copy them. If I committed a burglary and instead of taking your TV I go to Walmart and buy a copy, then that's not burglary. You certainly wouldn't report me to the police.
- tzs 1y agoThen how come a month ago you were talking about preventing zero-days from stealing files: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44578850 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44578850 ?
- const_cast 1y agoThis is the worst no you I've ever seen. I'm not concerned about my files being leaked because that's stealing. I'm concerned because they hold sensitive information that can be used for actual stealing, like for example with money. Malware isn't bad because it's stealing. That's stupid. I know you know it's stupid, so I don't know why you said it.
- tzs 1y agoThe point is that earlier you described a zero-day copying files as stealing the files, but now you say that copying data cannot be theft.
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