> have lifted far more employees into financial independence They've also destroyed financial independence. They've engaged in anti-competitive and anti-poach

> have lifted far more employees into financial independence They've also destroyed financial independence. They've engaged in anti-competitive and anti-poaching practices before. There's several famous examples. Anyways, are you saying it's Apple's goal to lift employees in this way, or does it just happen to be incidental to whatever their CEO wants at the moment? Also all the people actually _making_ those devices, surely the largest labor pool supporting their business, have zero financial independence. That's the typical western blind spot. > from employers than any other business in history I think that'd be the US Government and it's GI Bill. Okay, technically not a business, but if the virtue is independence, then it shouldn't matter who provided it.