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One day, not too long from now, you'll grow old. Your eyesight will fade, your back will hurt, and your brain will find it harder to process information. Do pe
by edent 1y ago
One day, not too long from now, you'll grow old. Your eyesight will fade, your back will hurt, and your brain will find it harder to process information.
Do people like you deserve to be protected by society? If a predatory company tries to scam you, should we say "sxp was old; they had it coming!"?
- mathiaspoint 1y agoI often say if I'm diagnosed with some serious cancer I'd probably try to sail the northwest passage rather than seeking treatment. I'm sure some people want absolute maximum raw time but plenty of us would prefer adventure right up to the end and I don't think denying us that is appropriate either.
- freehorse 1y agoWe are talking about scamming people here, not whether 76ers should be let to go on adventures.
- mathiaspoint 1y agoWe're talking about "having society protect them." They're the same thing. Only you can really judge if engaging in some dangerous activity is a gain for you.
- mdhb 1y agoThat idea really doesn’t hold up to even the most gentle of scrutiny.
- roryirvine 1y agoImagine if, having been diagnosed with serious cancer, you spent your life savings on a Northwest Passage trip which turned out to be a scam invented by Meta. Are you really saying that you should have no recourse against Meta for scamming you?
- freehorse 1y ago"Having society protect them" from scamming and out of context non-sense.
- zahlman 1y agoThe point is that he could have just as easily suffered this injury in his home country going about day to day life, where his eyesight, balance etc. would have been just as bad. The causal link between the chatbot's flirting and his death is shaky at best. This was tragic, and also the result of something clearly unethical, but the death was still not a reasonably foreseeable consequence.
- edent 1y agoHe could have suffered this injury in day-to-day life but he didn't. Imagine you were hit by a self-driving vehicle which was deliberately designed to kill Canadaians. Do you take comfort from the fact that you could have quite easily been hit by a human driver who wasn't paying attention?
- mindslight 1y agoProtected by society by having better support for caregivers and effective old age care in general? Most definitely. Protected by society by sanitizing every last venue into a safe space that can be independently navigated by the vulnerable? Definitely not. Having said that, the real problem here are the corpos mashing this newfound LLM technology into everyone's faces and calling it "AI" as if it's some coherent intelligence. Then they write themselves out of the picture and leave the individuals they've pitted against one another to fight it out.
- throw_me_uwu 1y agoWhy/how society should give more protection than people close to you? Why his wife let him go somewhere unknown, knowing about his diminished state? With all the labels and disclaimers, there can always be this one person that will get confused. It's unreasonable to demand protection from long tail of accidents that can happen.