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"Diverse discussion" is just something I don't want. Of course I've made up my mind about all kinds of things and I don't really need to see opposing points of

"Diverse discussion" is just something I don't want. Of course I've made up my mind about all kinds of things and I don't really need to see opposing points of view as though they are novel thoughts that I've never considered before. Sure, tell me again why your religion or your conspiracy theory proves that the scientific consensus is a hoax. Maybe you'll convince me this time? I don't mind Mastodon, but I'm pretty selective in who I follow, and diversity of opinions isn't one of my criteria.

squigz 1y ago
> I don't really need to see opposing points of view as though they are novel thoughts that I've never considered before I mean, that's fine, if you think that you can consider all conceivable angles thoroughly, by yourself. I for one welcome opposing views, but I suppose if my idea of that meant "religion or conspiracy theories" I'd probably be avoiding it too.
- incompatible 1y ago
  I follow people I can learn from, not people who try to convince me that everything I already know is wrong. I don't follow people who post misinformation, reject science, or who think that ad hominem attacks are a valid form of debate. There are a lot of them out there!
  - squigz 1y ago
    Fair enough. I guess I'm very lucky in that regard, as I don't run into that type of person very often
  - _mlbt 1y ago
    > I don't follow people who post misinformation A little off topic, but where do you get your news? I am having the hardest time finding credible news sources that aren't full of misinformation or bias to the point of being Soviet Union Pravda levels of propaganda. The best I've been able to do is pick a few sources that are left leaning and a few that are right leaning and try to glean the truth myself using critical thinking and for particularly important topics, more in depth research independently. The problem is that this is very time consuming and exhausting.
    - incompatible 1y ago
      Various, but including The Guardian and ABC News (Australia). I don't think they knowingly post misinformation in news reports, but there's still selection bias (I usually just read headlines, there's little I really need to know in depth). Their opinion and fluff pieces may or may not be interesting on the day. I lost interest in "right-leaning" when they basically went mad some time before the first Trump term. Neoliberalism was already on its last legs as a credible doctrine. I'm more or less an anarchist at this point. Edit: the ABC is somewhat right-leaning, and the Guardian doesn't really lean very far left.
- greenchair 1y ago
  no need to consider all angles about an issue. not possible anyway. think about how much time you've wasted on HN reading opposing views that add no value.
  - squigz 1y ago
    I will do that, right after I spend some time thinking about how much time I've spent on HN reading opposing views that add immense value and wisdom to my life. :)
  - incompatible 1y ago
    Also bearing in mind that most of us can't really do much about issues in the news, apart from posting a few pithy comments of our own which will disappear into the noise.

squigz 1y ago

> I don't really need to see opposing points of view as though they are novel thoughts that I've never considered before I mean, that's fine, if you think that you can consider all conceivable angles thoroughly, by yourself. I for one welcome opposing views, but I suppose if my idea of that meant "religion or conspiracy theories" I'd probably be avoiding it too.

incompatible 1y ago
I follow people I can learn from, not people who try to convince me that everything I already know is wrong. I don't follow people who post misinformation, reject science, or who think that ad hominem attacks are a valid form of debate. There are a lot of them out there!
- squigz 1y ago
  Fair enough. I guess I'm very lucky in that regard, as I don't run into that type of person very often
- _mlbt 1y ago
  > I don't follow people who post misinformation A little off topic, but where do you get your news? I am having the hardest time finding credible news sources that aren't full of misinformation or bias to the point of being Soviet Union Pravda levels of propaganda. The best I've been able to do is pick a few sources that are left leaning and a few that are right leaning and try to glean the truth myself using critical thinking and for particularly important topics, more in depth research independently. The problem is that this is very time consuming and exhausting.
  - incompatible 1y ago
    Various, but including The Guardian and ABC News (Australia). I don't think they knowingly post misinformation in news reports, but there's still selection bias (I usually just read headlines, there's little I really need to know in depth). Their opinion and fluff pieces may or may not be interesting on the day. I lost interest in "right-leaning" when they basically went mad some time before the first Trump term. Neoliberalism was already on its last legs as a credible doctrine. I'm more or less an anarchist at this point. Edit: the ABC is somewhat right-leaning, and the Guardian doesn't really lean very far left.
greenchair 1y ago
no need to consider all angles about an issue. not possible anyway. think about how much time you've wasted on HN reading opposing views that add no value.
- squigz 1y ago
  I will do that, right after I spend some time thinking about how much time I've spent on HN reading opposing views that add immense value and wisdom to my life. :)
- incompatible 1y ago
  Also bearing in mind that most of us can't really do much about issues in the news, apart from posting a few pithy comments of our own which will disappear into the noise.