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I was taking an intercity coach to Glasgow recently and a teenage kid was on his phone browsing social media without headphones. I made a comment that he should
by kombine 1y ago
I was taking an intercity coach to Glasgow recently and a teenage kid was on his phone browsing social media without headphones. I made a comment that he should use headphones or turn the volume off. He got defensive and angry. I did not to escalate, and put my earplugs on.
I do believe certain parcels of the society need to be restrained.
- HKH2 1y ago[flagged]
- iamflimflam1 1y agoThe parent said teenager - race was not mentioned.
- HKH2 1y agoI didn't mention race either. Why do you think culture and race are the same thing?
- kombine 1y agoI've encountered this exact behaviour with teenagers both white and of colour. I am also an immigrant in the UK (racially white).
- close04 1y agoThe same way you do in monoculturalism, so that's a meaningless distinction. If the families did not impart these values to children from a young age, the "owner" of a space advertises and enforces the rules. In this particular case the coach company should have had clear rules displayed in the coach (at least the basic and generic ones) and the driver should have enforced them at least on demand. Follow the rules or get off the coach.
- HKH2 1y agoMonocultures don't need explicit laws to regulate things, so it's not the same. Your libertarian argument works in theory, but the reality is much harder when you can't rely on a shared culture.
- sReinwald 1y agoInteresting leap you made there. How can you do effective conflict resolution in a society where someone reads an anecdote about a rude teenager and immediately assumes the problem is multiculturalism?
- falcor84 1y agoI don't know if that's what they meant, but a generation gap in a rapidly changing society can absolutely be considered a cultural gap.
- HKH2 1y agoCulture and race are not the same thing. Rephrased for you: If there is no dominant culture, how do you resolve conflicts like that?
- sReinwald 1y ago> Culture and race are not the same thing. I don't remember bringing up race. Another interesting leap. But please do elaborate on what sort of 'dominant culture' you're longing for and what sort of policies you'd love to see to (re-)establish that 'dominant culture' to resolve the incredibly new phenomenon of teenagers being rude and rebelling against social norms. Come on, don't be a coward and just drop the dogwhistling. You're bad at it.
- HKH2 1y agoSorry, I thought you were dogwhistling. A dominant culture means a step back from individualist values. The most effective 'policies' are created through communities not through law. We cannot rely only on the law for a healthy society; it is necessary but not sufficient. Rebelling against cultural norms is not the problem. The problem is when people escalate quickly because of it and threaten others. That means the gaps between cultures/subcultures have gotten too big.
- sReinwald 1y ago
- 01HNNWZ0MV43FF 1y agoSure everything is simpler on Mars, move there then
- HKH2 1y agoNo need. I live in a place which enforces the dominant culture.
- arethuza 1y agoI have a far bigger problem with adults having calls in public places with their phones on speaker... should they be "restrained" as well?
- vincnetas 1y agoDepends on public space. Busy street, who cares. Silent intercity bus, maybe. Library, for sure.
- graemep 1y agoExactly. I would expect it not to bother anyone on a busy street, but I would expect to told to stop it in a library, and to be kicked out in a theatre.
- bookofjoe 1y agoPhones on silent in a theatre yet with a sea of bright silent phone screens surrounding you as people watch TikTok, text, etc., the movie won't be very entertaining. Why I stopped going to movie theatres about 10 years ago.
- smegger001 1y agoAlso the work breakroom should be a headphone only zone. No Sharron I don't want to hear the gosip about your extended family as you talk on speaker with your sister about your trailer trash cousins. And Jack I don't want to hear your shitty political podcast with their hosts room temperture IQ...
- PeterStuer 1y agoGo to any hospital waiting room, and 80% of the time there will be a 60+ year old woman playing some inane phone game with the sound on max. Callous anti-social phone behavior isn't just the prerogative of teens.
- bookofjoe 1y agoHowever, you won't notice the noise from her phone because it will be inaudible compared to the wall-mounted TV playing at high volume 24/7.
- selfmodruntime 1y agoThere will also be the occasional large family cousins and all who tend to be very aggressive.
- EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 1y agoOlder persons are more often guilty of making noise with their phones, like talking loudly, having an obnoxious ringtone or watching a movie in full volume.