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This move feels inevitable. I expect we'll come to see an all-time high in "vibe-coded" apps and services/products built with surface-level understanding by cre

This move feels inevitable. I expect we'll come to see an all-time high in "vibe-coded" apps and services/products built with surface-level understanding by creators and used by people with even less technical awareness. Most developers in this new wave don't fully grasp the systems they're building, and end-users operate in total opacity. I have personally used AI to generate code scaffolds, and spend hours debugging edge cases, printing GitHub issues, and feeding API docs back into the system to stair it right enough times that I end up understanding a lot more what it is I plan on implementing as I reach a solid implementation. The average user wouldn't even know where to start with that. Google's policy isn't an overreach; more like a reaction to the coming tsunami of superficially functional but fundamentally fragile tools. This is just the first domino. Expect more platform-level interventions as poorly understood tech stacks meet real-world consequences. The era of "move fast and break things" is colliding with domains where broken things ruin lives. I wouldn't want any family members/close friends getting to swallow the latter pill. │ └── Dey well; Be well

hulitu 1y ago
> This move feels inevitable Does Google has a banking licence ? I've never heard of "Google bank". What is so special about Google Pay ?
- skywhopper 1y ago
  Yes, here’s the list of per-state licenses of Google Payments, in the United States: https://support.google.com/googlepay/answer/7160765?hl=en https://support.google.com/googlepay/answer/7160765?hl=en
- makeitdouble 1y ago
  > I've never heard of "Google bank" As a general point, there's a lot more banking entities than we as customer come into contact with. The bar isn't as high people image, and even for a middle-sized company getting a banking license is mostly a matter of investment and how serious they are about maintaining that activity in the long term. Any of the GAFAM already have or could have a operating internal banking arm if they wish it into existence.
bilsbie 1y ago
Adults must be protected from themselves at all costs!
johnnyanmac 1y ago
>The era of "move fast and break things" is colliding with domains where broken things ruin lives I sure wish we could tell that to the AI industry that pushed such changes to begin with. This is a good control factor, but the true perpertrators are at large.
- SR2Z 1y ago
  What exactly would you tell them? That they can't make hammers because someone could use them to commit a crime? The tools are there. It's up to us to deal with them.
laughing_man 1y ago
The Tea app was a perfect example of this. Vibe coded and released to the public, it shot up to the #1 spot that week in the app store. All without the slightest bit of data security. If you had the right URL you could download the entire user database, since the LLM they used to create it didn't think data security was important.
- BoredPositron 1y ago
  It was an open bucket let's not pretend that this isn't a daily occurrence with human devs.
  - 1oooqooq 1y ago
    llm just amplify the crap bloogers roleplaying as dev publish. only you assumed otherwise.

hulitu 1y ago

> This move feels inevitable Does Google has a banking licence ? I've never heard of "Google bank". What is so special about Google Pay ?

skywhopper 1y ago
Yes, here’s the list of per-state licenses of Google Payments, in the United States: https://support.google.com/googlepay/answer/7160765?hl=en https://support.google.com/googlepay/answer/7160765?hl=en
makeitdouble 1y ago
> I've never heard of "Google bank" As a general point, there's a lot more banking entities than we as customer come into contact with. The bar isn't as high people image, and even for a middle-sized company getting a banking license is mostly a matter of investment and how serious they are about maintaining that activity in the long term. Any of the GAFAM already have or could have a operating internal banking arm if they wish it into existence.

bilsbie 1y ago

Adults must be protected from themselves at all costs!

johnnyanmac 1y ago

>The era of "move fast and break things" is colliding with domains where broken things ruin lives I sure wish we could tell that to the AI industry that pushed such changes to begin with. This is a good control factor, but the true perpertrators are at large.

SR2Z 1y ago
What exactly would you tell them? That they can't make hammers because someone could use them to commit a crime? The tools are there. It's up to us to deal with them.

laughing_man 1y ago

The Tea app was a perfect example of this. Vibe coded and released to the public, it shot up to the #1 spot that week in the app store. All without the slightest bit of data security. If you had the right URL you could download the entire user database, since the LLM they used to create it didn't think data security was important.

BoredPositron 1y ago
It was an open bucket let's not pretend that this isn't a daily occurrence with human devs.
- 1oooqooq 1y ago
  llm just amplify the crap bloogers roleplaying as dev publish. only you assumed otherwise.