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I've been around for 2,017 days. Number of comments has gone down steadily, but I agree with mixmax as for the reason. Would any old-timer care to use the ope

by wensing 14y ago

I've been around for 2,017 days. Number of comments has gone down steadily, but I agree with mixmax as for the reason. Would any old-timer care to use the open-source HN code and create a vintage HN by automatically inviting anyone with an age of >N days?

larrys 14y ago
And what might that "n" be that lets the last man over the bridge?
- gameshot911 14y ago
  550 days. :)
- zgembo 14y ago
  Think early TechCrunch. No tech stories, only direct links to products and services are allowed. http://pivoted.co/ http://pivoted.co/
  - guptaneil 14y ago
    Is this your site? The search page prints PHP code at the top, just so you know.
    - zgembo 14y ago
      correct. thanks for that, will fix it. have a great weekend!
- wensing 14y ago
  def cutoff(): return min([leader.age for leader in get_leaders("http://news.ycombinator.com/leaders")] I leave you to define get_leaders. :)
  - tommi 14y ago
    Or, as humans would say that, the cutoff could be the youngest of leaders. However, that really doesn't answer the problem when you don't define what a leader is. If it's the highest amount of Karma past 7 days, then the youngest leader could even be a day old user. Please respond with solutions, not http wrappers.
    - wensing 14y ago
      If you go to the URL in the code, it defines what a leader is: the 100 people with the highest karma. By define get_leaders I meant write the scraper, not come up with the definition. Heh!
      - tekacsYC 14y ago
        574 days and it's llambda
- sstrudeau 14y ago
  I just checked mine ... 1337 days seems like a good number :)
  - malandrew 14y ago
    I'm at 730 days and I can support 1337 days, so long as I can read. I don't mind waiting just shy of two to be able to comment so long as the comment and post quality is exceptional. TBH I'm fascinated to know how the community would differ from HN of 4 years ago, since all the older participants would be 4 years more experienced in life and hacking.
    - wensing 14y ago
      Re: the TBH - exactly. I just might have to try this.
  - doktrin 14y ago
    First of all : fantastic age - congrats :) Secondly, I know your comment was tongue-in-cheek, but that would actually be a very appropriate age cut-off for what strikes me as a remarkably elitist endeavor.
  - raleec 14y ago
    What if the poster had an option to restrict the ability to comment on a submission to members with a certain threshold of karma or account age, not to exceed the poster's own level?
simon 14y ago
2025 days! Woohoo! :-) Sorry about that ... back to your regularly scheduled programming.
- elviejo 14y ago
  I've been a leach for 2023 days :-)
  - simon 14y ago
    Yep. I remember that when I saw the initial announcement (don't remember where), I grabbed my account name just incase I ever wanted to try the startup thing, trying to make sure that I could get my name rather than "some31337d00d_27".
    - seiji 14y ago
      It was on the reddit front page when pg made it public a long time ago. Well, 2027 days ago according to my created field. The only way to have an account older than 2027 days (as of today) is if you were in YC before news.yc was public.
      - simon 14y ago
        Arrgh, I'm two days off the maximum. Must have been getting slow in my old age!
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bootload 14y ago
"... Would any old-timer care to use the open-source HN code and create a vintage HN by automatically inviting anyone with an age of >N days? ..." 2024 days here @wensing, No. Being here a long time doesn't confer any special status. All it really shows is curiosity and early adoption. Other than having seen a wider range of technology, topics, discussion and behaviour the one thing I've noted is the number of high ranking stories sans comments. I'd really like to can articles limited to point threshold with no comments. No comments, no value & shouldn't get the chance to go up the story leader board.
- wensing 14y ago
  Special status isn't the point. They're simply cohorts and it would be interesting to see what the conversation would be like when segmented as such.
  - bootload 14y ago
    "... it would be interesting to see what the conversation would be like when segmented as such. ..." You already can. Just randomly pick a low item id, ie: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20111 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20111 and follow up the comments to the article head ie: "How to Build a Web 2.0 Dating Site in 66.5 Man-Hours " http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19988 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19988 The sig/noise was different, fewer higher qual comments.
mbrubeck 14y ago
http://news.ycombinator.com/classic http://news.ycombinator.com/classic is a version of the front page sorted only by votes from accounts over one year old. Generally the ranking is not too different, at least for top items. (I know this is not the same thing you're talking about; it just reminded me of it. Also note that /classic was created at a time when there were far fewer accounts that old; perhaps a higher threshold would be more interesting now.) Source: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=607271 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=607271 Personally I've been here for 1472 days (3.5 years) and on the leaderboard for much of that time. I feel like the quality has gone through several up-and-down cycles, though some of that is probably because my tastes have changed too. Overall it feels much as it did several years ago.
- rbanffy 14y ago
  Even old-timers rarely browse the /newest page to mod those up. This creates a bias favoring the ranking produced at /news because said old-timers will upvote those more than the ones at /newest (or /classic) The problem is not only the home page ranking: it's the discussions. I see a lot of low-quality (as in "it's more important to be right than it is to debate in civilized ways") discussions. I did not correlate that to account age.

by wensing 14y ago

larrys 14y ago

And what might that "n" be that lets the last man over the bridge?

gameshot911 14y ago
550 days. :)
zgembo 14y ago
Think early TechCrunch. No tech stories, only direct links to products and services are allowed. http://pivoted.co/ http://pivoted.co/
- guptaneil 14y ago
  Is this your site? The search page prints PHP code at the top, just so you know.
  - zgembo 14y ago
    correct. thanks for that, will fix it. have a great weekend!
wensing 14y ago
def cutoff(): return min([leader.age for leader in get_leaders("http://news.ycombinator.com/leaders")] I leave you to define get_leaders. :)
- tommi 14y ago
  Or, as humans would say that, the cutoff could be the youngest of leaders. However, that really doesn't answer the problem when you don't define what a leader is. If it's the highest amount of Karma past 7 days, then the youngest leader could even be a day old user. Please respond with solutions, not http wrappers.
  - wensing 14y ago
    If you go to the URL in the code, it defines what a leader is: the 100 people with the highest karma. By define get_leaders I meant write the scraper, not come up with the definition. Heh!
    - tekacsYC 14y ago
      574 days and it's llambda
sstrudeau 14y ago
I just checked mine ... 1337 days seems like a good number :)
- malandrew 14y ago
  I'm at 730 days and I can support 1337 days, so long as I can read. I don't mind waiting just shy of two to be able to comment so long as the comment and post quality is exceptional. TBH I'm fascinated to know how the community would differ from HN of 4 years ago, since all the older participants would be 4 years more experienced in life and hacking.
  - wensing 14y ago
    Re: the TBH - exactly. I just might have to try this.
- doktrin 14y ago
  First of all : fantastic age - congrats :) Secondly, I know your comment was tongue-in-cheek, but that would actually be a very appropriate age cut-off for what strikes me as a remarkably elitist endeavor.
- raleec 14y ago
  What if the poster had an option to restrict the ability to comment on a submission to members with a certain threshold of karma or account age, not to exceed the poster's own level?

simon 14y ago

2025 days! Woohoo! :-) Sorry about that ... back to your regularly scheduled programming.

elviejo 14y ago
I've been a leach for 2023 days :-)
- simon 14y ago
  Yep. I remember that when I saw the initial announcement (don't remember where), I grabbed my account name just incase I ever wanted to try the startup thing, trying to make sure that I could get my name rather than "some31337d00d_27".
  - seiji 14y ago
    It was on the reddit front page when pg made it public a long time ago. Well, 2027 days ago according to my created field. The only way to have an account older than 2027 days (as of today) is if you were in YC before news.yc was public.
    - simon 14y ago
      Arrgh, I'm two days off the maximum. Must have been getting slow in my old age!
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bootload 14y ago

"... Would any old-timer care to use the open-source HN code and create a vintage HN by automatically inviting anyone with an age of >N days? ..." 2024 days here @wensing, No. Being here a long time doesn't confer any special status. All it really shows is curiosity and early adoption. Other than having seen a wider range of technology, topics, discussion and behaviour the one thing I've noted is the number of high ranking stories sans comments. I'd really like to can articles limited to point threshold with no comments. No comments, no value & shouldn't get the chance to go up the story leader board.

wensing 14y ago
Special status isn't the point. They're simply cohorts and it would be interesting to see what the conversation would be like when segmented as such.
- bootload 14y ago
  "... it would be interesting to see what the conversation would be like when segmented as such. ..." You already can. Just randomly pick a low item id, ie: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20111 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20111 and follow up the comments to the article head ie: "How to Build a Web 2.0 Dating Site in 66.5 Man-Hours " http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19988 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19988 The sig/noise was different, fewer higher qual comments.

mbrubeck 14y ago

http://news.ycombinator.com/classic http://news.ycombinator.com/classic is a version of the front page sorted only by votes from accounts over one year old. Generally the ranking is not too different, at least for top items. (I know this is not the same thing you're talking about; it just reminded me of it. Also note that /classic was created at a time when there were far fewer accounts that old; perhaps a higher threshold would be more interesting now.) Source: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=607271 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=607271 Personally I've been here for 1472 days (3.5 years) and on the leaderboard for much of that time. I feel like the quality has gone through several up-and-down cycles, though some of that is probably because my tastes have changed too. Overall it feels much as it did several years ago.

rbanffy 14y ago
Even old-timers rarely browse the /newest page to mod those up. This creates a bias favoring the ranking produced at /news because said old-timers will upvote those more than the ones at /newest (or /classic) The problem is not only the home page ranking: it's the discussions. I see a lot of low-quality (as in "it's more important to be right than it is to debate in civilized ways") discussions. I did not correlate that to account age.