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فلسطين. top-level domain representing the Occupied Palestinian Territory
- jlgreco 14y agoMy impression is that all the major browsers show these links as punycode for security reasons. What is the point of these then? Is punycode defaulted to "off" in some countries? Wouldn't that just create two classes of users, one more vulnerable to phishing than the other?
- ConstantineXVI 14y agoLogically, one would think your native language's script would automatically get "whitelisted" and rendered properly, while everything else is punycoded as usual.
- kijeda 14y agoThat is not correct. For example, Mozilla takes a white list approach where they add TLDs that have registration policies that limit the risk of phishing (which is most of them). http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/tld-idn-policy-list.html http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/tld-idn-policy-list...
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- jlgreco 14y agoUnicode TLDs. Obviously only individual languages are whitelisted, as others have pointed out. I wasn't thinking fully.
- sp332 14y agoEven the TLDs aren't actually in the native script, they are punycoded in the spec. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internationalized_domain_name#Top-level_domain_implementation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internationalized_domain_name#... So the new TLD of فلسطين is really .xn--ygbi2ammx and both inputs will work, you can just use whichever is easier for you to type.
- Cushman 14y agoIt looks like if you add Arabic as a language in Chrome, domains aren't converted. (And actually it will change http://xn--ggblala6cyf.xn--wgbh1c/ http://xn--ggblala6cyf.xn--wgbh1c/ to ستفتاء.مصر in the address bar.)
- TazeTSchnitzel 14y agoMakes sense. If your language isn't Arabic, you may be unable to, for instance, write the website address down.
- mahmud 14y agoI can confirm this. Arabic TLDs and hostnames stay Arabic for me.
- Cushman 14y agoIt's interesting that the Arabic TLDs aren't abbreviated the way Latin and semi-Latin (.рф) country codes are. I wonder if that's reflective of anything besides that abbreviation of words is not as common in written Arabic.
- talbina 14y agoThat is correct, there are no abbreviations in the Arabic language.
- TazeTSchnitzel 14y agoArabic hasn't "modernised" in quite the same way many western languages have, which makes it quite interesting. Since it has stayed a written-only language for quite some time, the letters were not broken up, and its joined-up form has stayed into the digital age (at least, I assume this is why)
- Cushman 14y agoNot sure if "modernized" is appropriate in this context, since productive abbreviation in western languages dates to antiquity, i.e. Latin.
- TazeTSchnitzel 14y agoI don't mean just abbreviation, I mean Arabic hasn't seen certain types of changes that have occurred in Western languages. Although, arguably, Latin has always been fundamentally a non-cursive script, and Arabic has always been cursive, perhaps.
- Cushman 14y agoAh, I see. I think you may have it backwards, though: script Arabic developed around the same time as lower-case letters in Greek and Latin (very roughly 0CE), coinciding one presumes with growing use of paper for writing. While Latin eventually incorporated its older "upper-case" forms with a minor grammatical function, Arabic discarded them altogether as antiquated. In that sense, one might well make the case that Arabic is in fact the more "modern" alphabet.
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- mkhalil 14y agoCool beans. Glad to see IANA recognizing it. Hopefully the US Gov won't pull all there funding. </political joke>
- ars 14y agoA bigger question is if the two factions (Fatah and Hamas) will fight over control of this TLD.
- effinjames 14y agois it a weapon of mass destruction?
- gadders 14y agoIf the domain is just for the occupied territories, than Gaza (and Hamas) will get a different domain.
- shmerl 14y ago"Occupied territories" aren't a country though. Otherwise the domain should be related to Egypt or Jordan (whose territories are supposedly "occupied").
- snotrockets 14y agoThe Gaza Strip, West Bank and East Jerusalem are not self ruled, no. The term "occupied" relates to the fact that they are governed by the Israeli army, and are not self governed by their native inhabitants (the Israeli settlers unlawfully transferred there do vote for the Israeli parliament, and hence are self-governing in a way, as the Israeli army is under the authority of the Israeli government.) You are missing some of your history lessons: Jordan and Egypt have recsinded any claims to those territories, instead recognizing the Palestinian people as the one who should rule those territories (the same was recognized by the State of Israel in the "Declaration of Principles on Interim Self-Government Arrangements" aka Oslo I Accord)
- taylorfausak 14y agoThis TLD messes up HN's title: "top-level domain representing the Occupied Palestinian Territory | Hacker News .فلسطين" I assume this is because Arabic is right-to-left, but it's interesting that only the title is affected. Edit: This affects Mobile Safari on an iPad (iOS 5.1.1).
- nightpool 14y agoWorks fine for me. (Firefox 18.0a1 Windows XP)
- mratzloff 14y agoIt appears to be a bug in Safari in general. I see it on 6.0.
- jdpage 14y agoIt displays correctly in the Firefox content and UI (17.0a2, yes I am behind), but incorrectly in the OSX title bar.
- shrikant 14y agoDisplays correctly in FF 17 / Ubuntu 12.04, but only when Firefox is windowed. When maximised, the Unity bar takes over and I see the same bug you're seeing.
- ars 14y agoWill this become a trend and other countries will start registering TLD's in their native language? Even if they use latin script, the name of the country is not always written the same in it's own language vs in English.
- MartinCron 14y agoThis is already happening. The TLD for Spain is .es
- adlpz 14y agoAlso Germany (.de), Switzerland (.ch), Croatia (.hr), and several more. It's quite common. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_top-level_domains#Country_code_top-level_domains http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_top-level_doma...
- jtreminio 14y agoI don't think it's "es" for "español (Spaniards don't speak Spanish), it's "es" for "España".
- MartinCron 14y agoYes, I knew it was "España" but I was too lazy to get the special character. But, um, what do the people in Spain speak if not Spanish?
- burke 14y agoThey speak español.
- Cyranix 14y agoCastellano or Catalan, perhaps?
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- mark_l_watson 14y agoWhy not? The web is supposed to be open and letting all countries have whatever TLD(s) they want makes sense. The fact that some browsers may have font problems, etc. makes me think that countries might want to also have a secondary TLD in latin text. Perhaps they could be mapped to the same domain? I would think that a lot of countries might want this as a local pride issue.
- mariuolo 14y ago"Presidential deGrees"?