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Exactly: we live in a capitalist society which has been in decline into fascism for generations which makes the counter culture the opposite of those things. I
by ixtli 1y ago
Exactly: we live in a capitalist society which has been in decline into fascism for generations which makes the counter culture the opposite of those things.
I get the sense that because people can think of a few examples of mercenary security people or a few white supremacist groups that "hack" that this is somehow a refutation. It's not. You know about these people because 1) they usually are mean and suck and 2) they are outliers.
As you say: the phreaking / hacking / hobbist subcultures have always been collectivist by nature and the product of those subcultures will always chafe at the profit motive.
- ThrowawayR2 1y agoThe considerable number of libertarians and anarchists among the old-school hackers would probably be rather surprised to hear themselves described as collectivist.
- GuinansEyebrows 1y agoanarchism as a philosophy is obsessed with non-hierarchical collectivism. same with libertarianism, at least by the common definition of the term outside the united states (it often carries a leftist sentiment in other places).
- ixtli 1y agoNot sure you know very many anarchists.