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If ICE, subcontractors, and the federal government and are doing nothing wrong, why do they need to hide?

by jonathanlb 1y ago

_mlbt 1y ago
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- piva00 1y ago
  Oppression always meets resistance, a tale as old as time.
  - _mlbt 1y ago
    You can resist without murdering people.
    - Hikikomori 1y ago
      I though this is what your precious 2nd amendment is for.
      - _mlbt 1y ago
        If you’re serious about the history and intent of the Second Amendment, this is a great article on the topic… https://www.usconstitution.net/founding-fathers-gun-rights/ https://www.usconstitution.net/founding-fathers-gun-rights/
    - piva00 1y ago
      You can't control nor expect what's gonna be the resistance, sometimes it's Gandhi, others it's the IRA. Without the fear of violence there wouldn't be any fear of resistance, that's the whole point... Quite funny to read this very absurd take, gatekeeping resistance against oppression.
      - _mlbt 1y ago
        Is it your opinion that ICE agents deserve to be murdered and if so, why?
        piva00 1y ago
        I don't have any skin in the game, nor did I say they deserve to be murdered, the only thing I stated is that oppression is always met with resistance. If ICE agents are acting immorally, violently, and oppressive they will be met by people who are fearful, angry, the results of that are generally violent. They are making their own bed, I don't think anyone deserves to be murdered but realistically people who are oppressing others end up murdered. Is it your opinion that ICE should be oppressing others? Including US citizens? If so, why? Edit: for example, in this case[0], is it ok, in your opinion, that ICE is stochastically killing a kid with cancer? Don't you believe the emotional response to these actions can end up in violence? Wouldn't you be violent if it was your kid and you had no other recourse? Just think a bit harder, I believe you are definitely able to. [0] https://www.latintimes.com/4-year-old-us-citizen-fighting-stage-4-cancer-deported-honduras-family-takes-legal-action-588302 https://www.latintimes.com/4-year-old-us-citizen-fighting-st...
        _mlbt 1y ago
        It’s not oppression to detain and deport people who are in a country illegally. These are people who have no right to be in this country in the first place. I really do feel for the kid in your example, but at the same time, it is not America’s job to take everyone into the country illegally and provide for all of their needs at the expense of those who do actually follow the law and pay taxes. Who is supposed to take care of that child if the parents can’t legally be here? Do we add them to the already overloaded foster care system? The parents of that child should have come here legally. They are the problem here, not ICE. This is the problem with birthright citizenship. It creates these situations where if they leave the children here they’re “sEPaRAting FamiliES” but if they keep the family together they’re “DePOrting American CitIZEns.” It’s an impossible lose-lose situation.
hereme888 1y ago
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- shigawire 1y ago
  It's hard to be safe when you are snatching random people off the street without identifying as law enforcement. Especially in a country this armed.
  - edoceo 1y ago
    The USA 2A group is surprisingly quiet with all the tyranny happening.
    - hereme888 1y ago
      What tyranny?
  - hereme888 1y ago
    Why should criminals who flee law enforcement feel safe? They broke the country's laws. Trespassed the borders of a country! Doesn't matter what nice people some of them are. It's called crime. There's a big gate for entering the country legally for anyone who wants to feel safe.
the_third_wave 1y ago
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analognoise 1y ago
Most Americans are against this crazy immigration stuff, so I think they’re trying to prevent future prosecutions for doing obviously illegal things.
Whoppertime 1y ago
It's like asking why a government that is supposedly subservient to its citizens has a system of Classification that prevents citizens from finding out what their government is doing

If ICE, subcontractors, and the federal government and are doing nothing wrong, why do they need to hide?

_mlbt 1y ago

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piva00 1y ago
Oppression always meets resistance, a tale as old as time.
- _mlbt 1y ago
  You can resist without murdering people.
  - Hikikomori 1y ago
    I though this is what your precious 2nd amendment is for.
    - _mlbt 1y ago
      If you’re serious about the history and intent of the Second Amendment, this is a great article on the topic… https://www.usconstitution.net/founding-fathers-gun-rights/ https://www.usconstitution.net/founding-fathers-gun-rights/
  - piva00 1y ago
    You can't control nor expect what's gonna be the resistance, sometimes it's Gandhi, others it's the IRA. Without the fear of violence there wouldn't be any fear of resistance, that's the whole point... Quite funny to read this very absurd take, gatekeeping resistance against oppression.
    - _mlbt 1y ago
      Is it your opinion that ICE agents deserve to be murdered and if so, why?
      - piva00 1y ago
        I don't have any skin in the game, nor did I say they deserve to be murdered, the only thing I stated is that oppression is always met with resistance. If ICE agents are acting immorally, violently, and oppressive they will be met by people who are fearful, angry, the results of that are generally violent. They are making their own bed, I don't think anyone deserves to be murdered but realistically people who are oppressing others end up murdered. Is it your opinion that ICE should be oppressing others? Including US citizens? If so, why? Edit: for example, in this case[0], is it ok, in your opinion, that ICE is stochastically killing a kid with cancer? Don't you believe the emotional response to these actions can end up in violence? Wouldn't you be violent if it was your kid and you had no other recourse? Just think a bit harder, I believe you are definitely able to. [0] https://www.latintimes.com/4-year-old-us-citizen-fighting-stage-4-cancer-deported-honduras-family-takes-legal-action-588302 https://www.latintimes.com/4-year-old-us-citizen-fighting-st...
        _mlbt 1y ago
        It’s not oppression to detain and deport people who are in a country illegally. These are people who have no right to be in this country in the first place. I really do feel for the kid in your example, but at the same time, it is not America’s job to take everyone into the country illegally and provide for all of their needs at the expense of those who do actually follow the law and pay taxes. Who is supposed to take care of that child if the parents can’t legally be here? Do we add them to the already overloaded foster care system? The parents of that child should have come here legally. They are the problem here, not ICE. This is the problem with birthright citizenship. It creates these situations where if they leave the children here they’re “sEPaRAting FamiliES” but if they keep the family together they’re “DePOrting American CitIZEns.” It’s an impossible lose-lose situation.

hereme888 1y ago

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shigawire 1y ago
It's hard to be safe when you are snatching random people off the street without identifying as law enforcement. Especially in a country this armed.
- edoceo 1y ago
  The USA 2A group is surprisingly quiet with all the tyranny happening.
  - hereme888 1y ago
    What tyranny?
- hereme888 1y ago
  Why should criminals who flee law enforcement feel safe? They broke the country's laws. Trespassed the borders of a country! Doesn't matter what nice people some of them are. It's called crime. There's a big gate for entering the country legally for anyone who wants to feel safe.

the_third_wave 1y ago

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analognoise 1y ago

Most Americans are against this crazy immigration stuff, so I think they’re trying to prevent future prosecutions for doing obviously illegal things.

Whoppertime 1y ago

It's like asking why a government that is supposedly subservient to its citizens has a system of Classification that prevents citizens from finding out what their government is doing