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I'm curious to see how this will play out. I don't see big potential for the current US government to value scientific interests higher than the interests of S

I'm curious to see how this will play out. I don't see big potential for the current US government to value scientific interests higher than the interests of SpaceX. Wouldn't be surprised if SpaceX just continues to launch such satellites causing unintentional interference, to then claim in case of escalation how uneconomic it will be for them to correct this issue now and how the financial impact to SpaceX needs to be valued higher than scientific needs. This LEO Direct-to-cellular strategy seems to play out similarly, with SpaceX launching massive amounts of satellites which are technically not capable to prevent interference on private spectrum while crossing country-borders, so ITU/FCC/CEPT now need to find a solution to deal with this situation.

throw0101a 1y ago
> I don't see big potential for the current US government to value scientific interests higher than the interests of SpaceX. Do not underestimate the motivating factor of spite in the current US administration.
- burkaman 1y ago
  Spite about what? Elon hasn't done a single thing to harm the administration. The bill he claimed to dislike passed easily, he stopped talking about Epstein as soon as it seemed like it might cause actual problems for the president, and in the past couple days he's expressed very vocal support for the Texas gerrymandering effort and domestic deployment of the military in DC. He continues to be the administration's most powerful and influential supporter in the world.
  - JumpCrisscross 1y ago
    > Elon hasn't done a single thing to harm the administration Literally reïgnited the Epstein drama.
    - iAMkenough 1y ago
      They've made up since, with a plan to use the drama and outrage to disparage and prosecute political opponents of the President. Congress and Trump-appointed judges seem to be acting in support of that approach so far.
      - JumpCrisscross 1y ago
        > They've made up since That may be true. But it’s definitely a hot take. Musk and Trump have agreed a detente. We have no signs of them helping each other. Where Musk has made up is with the GOP machine, particularly in the House. That looks less like alliance than positioning.
        burkaman 1y ago
        I consider stuff like this to be helping Trump: https://xcancel.com/elonmusk/status/1952836498971344926 https://xcancel.com/elonmusk/status/1952836498971344926, https://xcancel.com/elonmusk/status/1954857646420369890 https://xcancel.com/elonmusk/status/1954857646420369890, https://xcancel.com/elonmusk/status/1955036144909029873 https://xcancel.com/elonmusk/status/1955036144909029873
        JumpCrisscross 1y ago
        That’s a detente. None of those tweets actually do anything.
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mschuster91 1y ago
> Wouldn't be surprised if SpaceX just continues to launch such satellites causing unintentional interference, to then claim in case of escalation how uneconomic it will be for them to correct this issue now and how the financial impact to SpaceX needs to be valued higher than scientific needs. At least Starlink satellites need to be replaced every few years anyway due to their low orbit. That is a natural ceiling for economical questions - ITU et al take years anyway until anything is actually enforceable, so SpaceX has ample time to prepare should there be a relevant movement in ITU.

throw0101a 1y ago

> I don't see big potential for the current US government to value scientific interests higher than the interests of SpaceX. Do not underestimate the motivating factor of spite in the current US administration.

burkaman 1y ago
Spite about what? Elon hasn't done a single thing to harm the administration. The bill he claimed to dislike passed easily, he stopped talking about Epstein as soon as it seemed like it might cause actual problems for the president, and in the past couple days he's expressed very vocal support for the Texas gerrymandering effort and domestic deployment of the military in DC. He continues to be the administration's most powerful and influential supporter in the world.
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago
  > Elon hasn't done a single thing to harm the administration Literally reïgnited the Epstein drama.
  - iAMkenough 1y ago
    They've made up since, with a plan to use the drama and outrage to disparage and prosecute political opponents of the President. Congress and Trump-appointed judges seem to be acting in support of that approach so far.
    - JumpCrisscross 1y ago
      > They've made up since That may be true. But it’s definitely a hot take. Musk and Trump have agreed a detente. We have no signs of them helping each other. Where Musk has made up is with the GOP machine, particularly in the House. That looks less like alliance than positioning.
      - burkaman 1y ago
        I consider stuff like this to be helping Trump: https://xcancel.com/elonmusk/status/1952836498971344926 https://xcancel.com/elonmusk/status/1952836498971344926, https://xcancel.com/elonmusk/status/1954857646420369890 https://xcancel.com/elonmusk/status/1954857646420369890, https://xcancel.com/elonmusk/status/1955036144909029873 https://xcancel.com/elonmusk/status/1955036144909029873
        JumpCrisscross 1y ago
        That’s a detente. None of those tweets actually do anything.
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mschuster91 1y ago

> Wouldn't be surprised if SpaceX just continues to launch such satellites causing unintentional interference, to then claim in case of escalation how uneconomic it will be for them to correct this issue now and how the financial impact to SpaceX needs to be valued higher than scientific needs. At least Starlink satellites need to be replaced every few years anyway due to their low orbit. That is a natural ceiling for economical questions - ITU et al take years anyway until anything is actually enforceable, so SpaceX has ample time to prepare should there be a relevant movement in ITU.