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To online safety for children? The same as offline safety; parenting and education. There's not much money in those though. https://x.com/moo9000/status/195086

To online safety for children? The same as offline safety; parenting and education. There's not much money in those though. https://x.com/moo9000/status/1950866445186818209 https://x.com/moo9000/status/1950866445186818209

dabeeeenster 1y ago
I wish it was as simple as that
baubino 1y ago
Making content restrictions easier for parents to implement would help a ton — like being able to block all sites in a browser and create a whitelist of the ones kids are allowed to access. Similar whitelisting should be available and easy to implement for YouTube and social media. Having to individually block each site/video/profile you don’t want your kid to access is a futile game of whack a mole.
- anonzzzies 1y ago
  But you can do this now: I made this for my sisters kids and my friend his Alzheimer dad years ago. Agree: its not mainstream or installable by just anyone, but if you are on HN it will take an old laptop with linux and chromium and a few hours.
- b800h 1y ago
  I'm able to do this using the Google Family controls for my kids' mobiles. I've tied it down so much that they use them rarely and for specific purposes.
- kivle 1y ago
  A more sensible approach to this law would be to require adult sites to include a clear marker in either an HTTP header or an HTML meta tag. For example: <meta name="OnlineSafetyAct:SiteClassification" content="adult;nudity"> This would allow locally run browser content blockers to automatically detect such sites without blocking them individually, and it would be trivial for site operators to implement. Since it would be mandated by law, sites that refuse to comply could be subject to legal action. Of course, this would still rely on parents taking the basic step of setting up a content blocker before allowing their children unrestricted internet access.
  - rhdunn 1y ago
    You can do something like this currently with schema.org metadata: { "@context": "https://schema.org", "@type": "WebPage", "contentRating": "18+", "isFamilyFriendly": false, "audience": { "@type": "PeopleAudience", "suggestedMinAge": 18, "requiredMinAge": 18 }, } - https://schema.org/WebPage https://schema.org/WebPage - https://schema.org/PeopleAudience https://schema.org/PeopleAudience - https://schema.org/AdultOrientedEnumeration https://schema.org/AdultOrientedEnumeration
- franga2000 1y ago
  This is already fairly trivial to do. There are many DIY and commercial off-the-shelf solutions. The problem with all client-side blocking is that it can be bypassed by just...using a different computer. People who want this legislation want restrictions to apply everywhere, not just on parent-managed devices, so shifting the discussion to client-side blocks just makes our arguments trivial to dismiss as irrelevant.

dabeeeenster 1y ago

I wish it was as simple as that

baubino 1y ago

Making content restrictions easier for parents to implement would help a ton — like being able to block all sites in a browser and create a whitelist of the ones kids are allowed to access. Similar whitelisting should be available and easy to implement for YouTube and social media. Having to individually block each site/video/profile you don’t want your kid to access is a futile game of whack a mole.

anonzzzies 1y ago
But you can do this now: I made this for my sisters kids and my friend his Alzheimer dad years ago. Agree: its not mainstream or installable by just anyone, but if you are on HN it will take an old laptop with linux and chromium and a few hours.
b800h 1y ago
I'm able to do this using the Google Family controls for my kids' mobiles. I've tied it down so much that they use them rarely and for specific purposes.
kivle 1y ago
A more sensible approach to this law would be to require adult sites to include a clear marker in either an HTTP header or an HTML meta tag. For example: <meta name="OnlineSafetyAct:SiteClassification" content="adult;nudity"> This would allow locally run browser content blockers to automatically detect such sites without blocking them individually, and it would be trivial for site operators to implement. Since it would be mandated by law, sites that refuse to comply could be subject to legal action. Of course, this would still rely on parents taking the basic step of setting up a content blocker before allowing their children unrestricted internet access.
- rhdunn 1y ago
  You can do something like this currently with schema.org metadata: { "@context": "https://schema.org", "@type": "WebPage", "contentRating": "18+", "isFamilyFriendly": false, "audience": { "@type": "PeopleAudience", "suggestedMinAge": 18, "requiredMinAge": 18 }, } - https://schema.org/WebPage https://schema.org/WebPage - https://schema.org/PeopleAudience https://schema.org/PeopleAudience - https://schema.org/AdultOrientedEnumeration https://schema.org/AdultOrientedEnumeration
franga2000 1y ago
This is already fairly trivial to do. There are many DIY and commercial off-the-shelf solutions. The problem with all client-side blocking is that it can be bypassed by just...using a different computer. People who want this legislation want restrictions to apply everywhere, not just on parent-managed devices, so shifting the discussion to client-side blocks just makes our arguments trivial to dismiss as irrelevant.