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One has to read the scripture. In many cases we are talking about things that were clearly defined as sins in the scripture. Just read the scripture instead of

by dkiebd 1y ago

One has to read the scripture. In many cases we are talking about things that were clearly defined as sins in the scripture. Just read the scripture instead of making up the rules.

lurquer 1y ago
Are you suggesting the scriptures do not obligate church leaders to protect the flock from heresy? 1 Timothy 6:20–21 – “O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding the profane novelties of words and oppositions of knowledge falsely so called, which some professing have erred concerning the faith.” 2 Timothy 4:3–4 – Warns of people turning from truth to myths, implying leaders must protect them from such influences. Titus 1:9–11 – Bishops must “stop the mouths” of those teaching error, which includes preventing their works from spreading. Acts 20:28–31 – Paul warns the Ephesian elders to guard the flock from false teachers who will arise “speaking perverse things.” 2 John 1:10–11 – “If any man come to you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into the house nor say to him, God speed you.” Romans 16:17 – Mark and avoid those who cause doctrinal divisions; a list of banned works is a formal way of “marking” them. Acts 19:19 – New converts in Ephesus publicly burn their occult books after coming to the faith. Deuteronomy 13:1–5 – False prophets and their influence must be eradicated from the midst of the people. Etc, etc, etc.
- dkiebd 1y ago
  Are you giving a list of things that support what I said?
  - lurquer 1y ago
    Perhaps there was some ambiguity in your post. The verses speak for themselves. If they support your views, good.
majoe 1y ago
"Just read the scripture" is not enough. Catholics are supposed to use the historical critical method, when interpreting texts from the bible. There are other Christian groups, which take the bible verbatim, but Catholicism is none of them. For that and other reasons there are plenty of things presented in the old testament as sins, which Christians don't consider to be sins. The most obvious example is probably rules around kosher food.

by dkiebd 1y ago

One has to read the scripture. In many cases we are talking about things that were clearly defined as sins in the scripture. Just read the scripture instead of making up the rules.

lurquer 1y ago

Are you suggesting the scriptures do not obligate church leaders to protect the flock from heresy? 1 Timothy 6:20–21 – “O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding the profane novelties of words and oppositions of knowledge falsely so called, which some professing have erred concerning the faith.” 2 Timothy 4:3–4 – Warns of people turning from truth to myths, implying leaders must protect them from such influences. Titus 1:9–11 – Bishops must “stop the mouths” of those teaching error, which includes preventing their works from spreading. Acts 20:28–31 – Paul warns the Ephesian elders to guard the flock from false teachers who will arise “speaking perverse things.” 2 John 1:10–11 – “If any man come to you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into the house nor say to him, God speed you.” Romans 16:17 – Mark and avoid those who cause doctrinal divisions; a list of banned works is a formal way of “marking” them. Acts 19:19 – New converts in Ephesus publicly burn their occult books after coming to the faith. Deuteronomy 13:1–5 – False prophets and their influence must be eradicated from the midst of the people. Etc, etc, etc.

dkiebd 1y ago
Are you giving a list of things that support what I said?
- lurquer 1y ago
  Perhaps there was some ambiguity in your post. The verses speak for themselves. If they support your views, good.

majoe 1y ago

"Just read the scripture" is not enough. Catholics are supposed to use the historical critical method, when interpreting texts from the bible. There are other Christian groups, which take the bible verbatim, but Catholicism is none of them. For that and other reasons there are plenty of things presented in the old testament as sins, which Christians don't consider to be sins. The most obvious example is probably rules around kosher food.