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I don’t think OpenAI train on data processed via the API, unless there’s an exception specifically for this.

by cedws 1y ago

dannyw 1y ago
Can you truly trust them though?
- cedws 1y ago
  Yes, it would be disastrous for OpenAI if it got out they are training on B2B data despite saying they don’t.
  - mattigames 1y ago
    Yeah, so many companies have been completely ruined after similar PR disasters /s
    - j33zusjuice 1y ago
      Their terms of service say they won’t use the data for training, so it wouldn’t just be a PR disaster; it’d be a breach of contract. They’d be sued into oblivion.
  - reasonableklout 1y ago
    Have they said they don't? (actually curious)
    - gkbrk 1y ago
      Yes, they have. [1] > Your data is your data. As of March 1, 2023, data sent to the OpenAI API is not used to train or improve OpenAI models (unless you explicitly opt in to share data with us). [1]: https://platform.openai.com/docs/guides/your-data https://platform.openai.com/docs/guides/your-data
  - dweinus 1y ago
    We're both talking about the company whose entire business model is built on top of large scale copyright infringement, right?
    - dymk 1y ago
      Not the same when the people you infringe on can sue you into the dirt
johnthescott 1y ago
i am too lazy to ask openai.
trhway 1y ago
i'd not rule out some approach like instead of training directly on the data, may be they would train on a very high dimensional embedding of such a data (or some other similarly "anonymized", yet still very semantically rich representation of the data)
dpoloncsak 1y ago
Maybe I misunderstand, but I'm pretty sure they offer an option for cheaper API costs (or maybe its credits?) if you allow them to train on your API requests. To your point, pretty sure it's off by default, though Edit: From https://platform.openai.com/settings/organization/data-controls/sharing https://platform.openai.com/settings/organization/data-contr... Share inputs and outputs with OpenAI "Turn on sharing with OpenAI for inputs and outputs from your organization to help us develop and improve our services, including for improving and training our models. Only traffic sent after turning this setting on will be shared. You can change your settings at any time to disable sharing inputs and outputs." And I am 'enrolled for complimentary daily tokens.'

I don’t think OpenAI train on data processed via the API, unless there’s an exception specifically for this.

by cedws 1y ago

I don’t think OpenAI train on data processed via the API, unless there’s an exception specifically for this.

dannyw 1y ago

Can you truly trust them though?

cedws 1y ago
Yes, it would be disastrous for OpenAI if it got out they are training on B2B data despite saying they don’t.
- mattigames 1y ago
  Yeah, so many companies have been completely ruined after similar PR disasters /s
  - j33zusjuice 1y ago
    Their terms of service say they won’t use the data for training, so it wouldn’t just be a PR disaster; it’d be a breach of contract. They’d be sued into oblivion.
- reasonableklout 1y ago
  Have they said they don't? (actually curious)
  - gkbrk 1y ago
    Yes, they have. [1] > Your data is your data. As of March 1, 2023, data sent to the OpenAI API is not used to train or improve OpenAI models (unless you explicitly opt in to share data with us). [1]: https://platform.openai.com/docs/guides/your-data https://platform.openai.com/docs/guides/your-data
- dweinus 1y ago
  We're both talking about the company whose entire business model is built on top of large scale copyright infringement, right?
  - dymk 1y ago
    Not the same when the people you infringe on can sue you into the dirt

johnthescott 1y ago

i am too lazy to ask openai.

trhway 1y ago

i'd not rule out some approach like instead of training directly on the data, may be they would train on a very high dimensional embedding of such a data (or some other similarly "anonymized", yet still very semantically rich representation of the data)

dpoloncsak 1y ago

Maybe I misunderstand, but I'm pretty sure they offer an option for cheaper API costs (or maybe its credits?) if you allow them to train on your API requests. To your point, pretty sure it's off by default, though Edit: From https://platform.openai.com/settings/organization/data-controls/sharing https://platform.openai.com/settings/organization/data-contr... Share inputs and outputs with OpenAI "Turn on sharing with OpenAI for inputs and outputs from your organization to help us develop and improve our services, including for improving and training our models. Only traffic sent after turning this setting on will be shared. You can change your settings at any time to disable sharing inputs and outputs." And I am 'enrolled for complimentary daily tokens.'