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Nah, you could’ve waited 5 years to port if you were concerned about your x86 binaries not being supported, the bigger deal was that Apple was shipping good ARM

Nah, you could’ve waited 5 years to port if you were concerned about your x86 binaries not being supported, the bigger deal was that Apple was shipping good ARM computers and if you’re a developer, you don’t want your app to seem slow on what consumers can see is clearly a fast machine. Microsoft has made multiple abortive lethargic gestures towards ARM, but has yet to get people excited about an ARM computer that runs Windows.

pjmlp 1y ago
CoPilot+ PC could have been it, but then they completly messed up with Recall, naturally no one wants to have such thing on their computers if they can avoid it.
- jeroenhd 1y ago
  Even before Recall, most people laughed at the idea of putting Copilot into notepad. Outside of people part of the hype train and investors, nobody wants Copilot PCs.
  - brookst 1y ago
    And “nobody” is shorthand for “no technology professional”, right?
    - thewebguyd 1y ago
      > And “nobody” is shorthand for “no technology professional”, right? Yeah, I would say so - I've spoken to people that are genuinely excited for things like Recall. Like it or not, we (tech people) are in the minority in our disdain for it, and disdain for shoving "AI" everywhere. And that's OK, we aren't the market for these features, but that doesn't mean a market doesn't exist for them.
regularfry 1y ago
Part of the trick was that ARM previously held a "cheaper, more efficient, smaller than x86" slot, and in the Windows ecosystem that was competing for the bottom of the market. Apple's ability to launch the M1 completely demolished that position and made an ARM chip the positively better choice, and it's just not something that Microsoft could ever have tried. MS have always treated the actual hardware as first and foremost someone else's problem. Which is a shame, because when they do produce their own kit, it tends to be very good.
- trelane 1y ago
  I wonder if Netbooks would have gone to ARM eventually, had Microsoft not killed them.

pjmlp 1y ago

CoPilot+ PC could have been it, but then they completly messed up with Recall, naturally no one wants to have such thing on their computers if they can avoid it.

jeroenhd 1y ago
Even before Recall, most people laughed at the idea of putting Copilot into notepad. Outside of people part of the hype train and investors, nobody wants Copilot PCs.
- brookst 1y ago
  And “nobody” is shorthand for “no technology professional”, right?
  - thewebguyd 1y ago
    > And “nobody” is shorthand for “no technology professional”, right? Yeah, I would say so - I've spoken to people that are genuinely excited for things like Recall. Like it or not, we (tech people) are in the minority in our disdain for it, and disdain for shoving "AI" everywhere. And that's OK, we aren't the market for these features, but that doesn't mean a market doesn't exist for them.

regularfry 1y ago

Part of the trick was that ARM previously held a "cheaper, more efficient, smaller than x86" slot, and in the Windows ecosystem that was competing for the bottom of the market. Apple's ability to launch the M1 completely demolished that position and made an ARM chip the positively better choice, and it's just not something that Microsoft could ever have tried. MS have always treated the actual hardware as first and foremost someone else's problem. Which is a shame, because when they do produce their own kit, it tends to be very good.

trelane 1y ago
I wonder if Netbooks would have gone to ARM eventually, had Microsoft not killed them.