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I'm very honestly wondering if they become violent, because using socratic method has closed the other road. I mean if you've just proven that my words and log
by allan_s 1y ago
I'm very honestly wondering if they become violent, because using socratic method has closed the other road.
I mean if you've just proven that my words and logic are actually unsound and incoherent how can I use that very logic with you? If you add to this that most people want to win an argument (when facing opposite point of view) then what's left to win but violence ?
- coryrc 1y ago... you can change your judgement/thoughts and be on the correct side.
- lazide 1y agoHave you met people?
- allan_s 1y agoit was not about what I could do, but explaining why people may resort to violence. And to be very honest even the one using the socratic method may not be of pure intention. In both cases I ve rarely (not never) met someone who admitted right away to be wrong as the conclusion of a argument.
- tankenmate 1y agoViolence is the last refuge of the incompetent. -- Asimov
- lazide 1y agoNever underestimate the effectiveness of violence. - every successful general and politician ever
- pjc50 1y agoIsn't this ultimately what happened to Socrates himself? (I don't think enough people take the lesson from this of "it doesn't matter if you're right if you're also really obnoxious about it")
- koakuma-chan 1y agoOne lesson I learned is that you, more often than not, cannot convince a person to change their opinion by arguing with them.
- lazide 1y agoI’m pretty sure Socrates wasn’t even being obnoxious about it. The lesson I took was, he would rather be dead right, than a live liar. We all end up making that choice at some point, if we recognize it or not.