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>Would you like to go into my personal experiences with urban crime? How many gun barrels have you stared down? More than one. >How many times have you been p

>Would you like to go into my personal experiences with urban crime? How many gun barrels have you stared down? More than one. >How many times have you been punched in public by a stranger, while just standing there? More than once. >How many times have you been robbed on the sidewalk? Once, as a child because I wasn't paying attention. As a teen? Several attempts on the subway, on the street and other places. As an adult? On the Brooklyn Bridge. So. Where exactly did all this stuff happen to you, eh? I call bullshit on your "horror stories."

nec4b 1y ago
Your city doesn't sound very safe as you claim in another comment.
- nobody9999 1y ago
  >Your city doesn't sound very safe as you claim in another comment. All that stuff was 30-50 years ago. As I mentioned (and linked[0] to statistics), I'm old and things have changed a lot. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44879420 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44879420 Edit: Actually it was 35-50 years ago, but who's counting?
  - nec4b 1y ago
    Actually you have not mentioned it was 35-50 years ago. But thank you clearing it up.
- nobody9999 1y ago
  >Inflation was high and people had to convert their salaries into German marks the same day they got pay checks, otherwise the money was worthless the next day. Basic goods were unattainable. People had to smuggle coffee, bananas and jeans across the border. Of course if you were a part of the red nobility, your life was easier as you got access to special stores and got to enjoy the fruits of the labor of your fellow equals. And things are, right now, exactly as you described in this comment[0], right? [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44850663 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44850663
  - nec4b 1y ago
    No need to be snark. Unlike your comment, where you iterated what happened to you without any time specifics, my comment was for a specific time period as evident from the discussion.
    - nobody9999 1y ago
      Did you? There was nothing clearly stating any dates or years. Just like you did, I assumed what you said all happened in the past three weeks. Especially since I said[0]: "Once, as a child because I wasn't paying attention. As a teen? Several attempts on the subway, on the street and other places. As an adult? On the Brooklyn Bridge." Because we grow up fast here in NYC. A month ago I was a child. Now I'm pushing 60. All in the past three weeks! [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44879506 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44879506
      - nec4b 1y ago
        >> Did you? Literally the first line was starting with ">> Yugoslav communism...". #Especially since I said[0]: #"Once, as a child because I wasn't paying attention. As a teen? Several #attempts on the subway, on the street and other places. As an adult? On the #Brooklyn Bridge." That was for the robbery and before that you said: #>Would you like to go into my personal experiences with urban crime? How many #gun barrels have you stared down? #More than one. #>How many times have you been punched in public by a stranger, while just #standing there? #More than once. Nothing specific there. Why are you so antagonizing about it and trying to straw man something with my comment that doesn't exist? I only told you how I read (I'm probably not the only one) your comment and pointed out some context was missing and when you explained it, I accepted it.
mrangle 1y ago
It doesn't matter whether or not you believe me. You believing me doesn't even begin to calculate into a single thought that I have. Besides that, not believing someone is not an argument. On these issues, it means that you lack realistic perspective and have nothing to say. Aside from what it makes you to discount someone's very real trauma, as your only patter.
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- beedeebeedee 1y ago
  I've been beaten, pistol-whipped by a group and had to go to the hospital, had a kid try to knock me out from behind (remember the knock out craze fifteen years ago?), seen people beaten and shot, and had the cops draw their guns on me and threaten to blow my head off on more than one occasion in New Haven (and if you're curious, I'm not a criminal, but was just an adventurous kid who tried to defy the segregation in the city). As someone like you who has also been the victim of violent crime, I definitely do not want the military patroling any city. I hate violent crime, but that is not the way to solve it, period. It takes community policing and the slow process of raising people out of poverty, desperation and hopelessness, by undoing the damage that has been done to them through decades of economic oppression.

nec4b 1y ago

Your city doesn't sound very safe as you claim in another comment.

nobody9999 1y ago
>Your city doesn't sound very safe as you claim in another comment. All that stuff was 30-50 years ago. As I mentioned (and linked[0] to statistics), I'm old and things have changed a lot. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44879420 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44879420 Edit: Actually it was 35-50 years ago, but who's counting?
- nec4b 1y ago
  Actually you have not mentioned it was 35-50 years ago. But thank you clearing it up.
nobody9999 1y ago
>Inflation was high and people had to convert their salaries into German marks the same day they got pay checks, otherwise the money was worthless the next day. Basic goods were unattainable. People had to smuggle coffee, bananas and jeans across the border. Of course if you were a part of the red nobility, your life was easier as you got access to special stores and got to enjoy the fruits of the labor of your fellow equals. And things are, right now, exactly as you described in this comment[0], right? [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44850663 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44850663
- nec4b 1y ago
  No need to be snark. Unlike your comment, where you iterated what happened to you without any time specifics, my comment was for a specific time period as evident from the discussion.
  - nobody9999 1y ago
    Did you? There was nothing clearly stating any dates or years. Just like you did, I assumed what you said all happened in the past three weeks. Especially since I said[0]: "Once, as a child because I wasn't paying attention. As a teen? Several attempts on the subway, on the street and other places. As an adult? On the Brooklyn Bridge." Because we grow up fast here in NYC. A month ago I was a child. Now I'm pushing 60. All in the past three weeks! [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44879506 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44879506
    - nec4b 1y ago
      >> Did you? Literally the first line was starting with ">> Yugoslav communism...". #Especially since I said[0]: #"Once, as a child because I wasn't paying attention. As a teen? Several #attempts on the subway, on the street and other places. As an adult? On the #Brooklyn Bridge." That was for the robbery and before that you said: #>Would you like to go into my personal experiences with urban crime? How many #gun barrels have you stared down? #More than one. #>How many times have you been punched in public by a stranger, while just #standing there? #More than once. Nothing specific there. Why are you so antagonizing about it and trying to straw man something with my comment that doesn't exist? I only told you how I read (I'm probably not the only one) your comment and pointed out some context was missing and when you explained it, I accepted it.

mrangle 1y ago

It doesn't matter whether or not you believe me. You believing me doesn't even begin to calculate into a single thought that I have. Besides that, not believing someone is not an argument. On these issues, it means that you lack realistic perspective and have nothing to say. Aside from what it makes you to discount someone's very real trauma, as your only patter.

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beedeebeedee 1y ago
I've been beaten, pistol-whipped by a group and had to go to the hospital, had a kid try to knock me out from behind (remember the knock out craze fifteen years ago?), seen people beaten and shot, and had the cops draw their guns on me and threaten to blow my head off on more than one occasion in New Haven (and if you're curious, I'm not a criminal, but was just an adventurous kid who tried to defy the segregation in the city). As someone like you who has also been the victim of violent crime, I definitely do not want the military patroling any city. I hate violent crime, but that is not the way to solve it, period. It takes community policing and the slow process of raising people out of poverty, desperation and hopelessness, by undoing the damage that has been done to them through decades of economic oppression.