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I used GitHub for years in the tech industry, then went into the games industry and used BitBucket and hated it, thought it was such a downgrade. Now I'm back i

by zemo 1y ago

I used GitHub for years in the tech industry, then went into the games industry and used BitBucket and hated it, thought it was such a downgrade. Now I'm back in the tech industry and using GitHub, and I miss BitBucket.

nickitolas 1y ago
Is games not a part of tech?
- krs_ 1y ago
  Of course, but there are some oddities in tool use compared to other industries. At my job we use Perforce for version control for example, which I think is more common in the game industry than other solutions for whatever reason. Naturally everyone here hates it.
  - phlakaton 1y ago
    But not everybody here has to try and manage many GB or even TB of assets in their VCS. I wager game company build/dev engineers know what they are doing in picking Perforce.
    - __float 1y ago
      It is a _decision_ to put those assets in the same VCS as your source code. It's not one you are required to make.
      - Wowfunhappy 1y ago
        ...maybe, but there a good reason not to make that decision, assuming you have a VCS that can manage large files? I am very much not in this industry, but it seems to me that if the assets and code depend on one another, you'd want to keep them together.
  - zemo 1y ago
    > Perforce for version control for example, which I think is more common in the game industry than other solutions for whatever reason. The last game I worked on was like 80gb built. The perforce depot was many terabytes large, not something you want to have on every person's workstation. Games companies use Perforce for a very good reason.
- zemo 1y ago
  no
psygn89 1y ago
I liked the UI of BitBucket more. Stuff I accessed frequently like commits and branches were tabs across the top, easy to reach from any page. Branch dropdown sort order was by most recently updated unlike GitHub where I have to search for it. Easy to diff files. This was like 4 or 5 years ago though, maybe it has gone through modernization/enshittification. GitHub feels a bit fragmented and it tries to be more performant by virtualizing some things but while BitBucket in some sense was more rudimentary and showed it all (bogging my machine down some), it allowed me to CTRL + F easily with more confidence whereas with virtualization I've had issues with it finding things and I couldn't 100% trust it.
bpye 1y ago
> then went into the games industry and used BitBucket and hated it At least it wasn't Perforce?
- zemo 1y ago
  I've worked at two game companies and both used both of them. And I went to grad school for game design and used Perforce. So yeah I've ... had the experience.
dosethree 1y ago
Bitbucket is butt
lesuorac 1y ago
Starting to pretty much desire tools that can do nothing but are just fast at their core competency. Looking at PRs in github and then when toggling to the "files" tab it chocking up or being like "I don't want to display this file because its more than 100 lines" is like wtf you're whole point is to show me modified files.
- FredPret 1y ago
  Like the Unix philosophy, but for businesses. Come to think of it, this might be great advice for life in general: do one thing very well, and be modular (aka play well with others)
  - Analemma_ 1y ago
    I wish the world worked this way, but I don't think it does, especially in tech. If you "do one thing well", the cloud hyperscalers will use their billions to copy whatever that is, and add your "one good thing" into their bundled subscriptions or cloud plans. At which point, any rational CTO will go "why should we pay for this, when we're already getting it via AWS/O365/whatever, and with better integration with our existing tooling to boot?" I don't think "do one thing well" can succeed in this world, which is why Atlassian, Dropbox, etc. keep on launching things like office suites even though that makes no sense considering their core competencies. It's the only way not be streamrolled by FAANG.
    - MoreQARespect 1y ago
      It works with Keiretsu. Ive long thought that this is how Europe should play catch up and build its own equivalent(s) of AWS, GCP and Azure.
      - FredPret 1y ago
        I've seen it mentioned in the context of smaller countries competing with the big guys using industrial policy, and one example mentioned in that article (I don't have a link - it was long ago) they specifically mention Sweden and Volvo.
mrheosuper 1y ago
Grass is always greener on the other side.

by zemo 1y ago

nickitolas 1y ago

Is games not a part of tech?

krs_ 1y ago
Of course, but there are some oddities in tool use compared to other industries. At my job we use Perforce for version control for example, which I think is more common in the game industry than other solutions for whatever reason. Naturally everyone here hates it.
- phlakaton 1y ago
  But not everybody here has to try and manage many GB or even TB of assets in their VCS. I wager game company build/dev engineers know what they are doing in picking Perforce.
  - __float 1y ago
    It is a _decision_ to put those assets in the same VCS as your source code. It's not one you are required to make.
    - Wowfunhappy 1y ago
      ...maybe, but there a good reason not to make that decision, assuming you have a VCS that can manage large files? I am very much not in this industry, but it seems to me that if the assets and code depend on one another, you'd want to keep them together.
- zemo 1y ago
  > Perforce for version control for example, which I think is more common in the game industry than other solutions for whatever reason. The last game I worked on was like 80gb built. The perforce depot was many terabytes large, not something you want to have on every person's workstation. Games companies use Perforce for a very good reason.
zemo 1y ago
no

psygn89 1y ago

I liked the UI of BitBucket more. Stuff I accessed frequently like commits and branches were tabs across the top, easy to reach from any page. Branch dropdown sort order was by most recently updated unlike GitHub where I have to search for it. Easy to diff files. This was like 4 or 5 years ago though, maybe it has gone through modernization/enshittification. GitHub feels a bit fragmented and it tries to be more performant by virtualizing some things but while BitBucket in some sense was more rudimentary and showed it all (bogging my machine down some), it allowed me to CTRL + F easily with more confidence whereas with virtualization I've had issues with it finding things and I couldn't 100% trust it.

bpye 1y ago

> then went into the games industry and used BitBucket and hated it At least it wasn't Perforce?

zemo 1y ago
I've worked at two game companies and both used both of them. And I went to grad school for game design and used Perforce. So yeah I've ... had the experience.

dosethree 1y ago

Bitbucket is butt

lesuorac 1y ago

Starting to pretty much desire tools that can do nothing but are just fast at their core competency. Looking at PRs in github and then when toggling to the "files" tab it chocking up or being like "I don't want to display this file because its more than 100 lines" is like wtf you're whole point is to show me modified files.

FredPret 1y ago
Like the Unix philosophy, but for businesses. Come to think of it, this might be great advice for life in general: do one thing very well, and be modular (aka play well with others)
- Analemma_ 1y ago
  I wish the world worked this way, but I don't think it does, especially in tech. If you "do one thing well", the cloud hyperscalers will use their billions to copy whatever that is, and add your "one good thing" into their bundled subscriptions or cloud plans. At which point, any rational CTO will go "why should we pay for this, when we're already getting it via AWS/O365/whatever, and with better integration with our existing tooling to boot?" I don't think "do one thing well" can succeed in this world, which is why Atlassian, Dropbox, etc. keep on launching things like office suites even though that makes no sense considering their core competencies. It's the only way not be streamrolled by FAANG.
  - MoreQARespect 1y ago
    It works with Keiretsu. Ive long thought that this is how Europe should play catch up and build its own equivalent(s) of AWS, GCP and Azure.
    - FredPret 1y ago
      I've seen it mentioned in the context of smaller countries competing with the big guys using industrial policy, and one example mentioned in that article (I don't have a link - it was long ago) they specifically mention Sweden and Volvo.

mrheosuper 1y ago

Grass is always greener on the other side.