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we're 20 years into social media 1984 and Americans still want to believe that it's unimaginably worse in China.

ch4s3 1y ago
It seem by all account imaginably worse in China, particularly in Xinjiang. I might also call to attention the disappearance from western social media of a prominent Chinese maker. I'm also unaware of anyone in the US being sent to prison for political speech online.
- buyucu 1y ago
  Julian Assange might disagree with that.
  - ch4s3 1y ago
    What exactly did he say online that got him accused of espionage? I seem to remember the issue being that he was accused of conspiring with Manning to release classified documents, and possibly gaining unauthorized access to congressional records via an exploit in the systems access controls. I don't like the idea of the US government hounding journalists who work with leakers, but Assange was always tiptoeing up to and possibly just past laws unrelated to speech. I not a simple and straightforward case and does not prove that the US is like China in terms of censorship. You can be jailed in China for simply talking about the Tienanmen Square massacre or implying Taiwanese sovereignty, nothing comparable happens in the US.
    - buyucu 1y ago
      When China throws people into prison, it's authoritarianism. When America does it, it's for FREEDOM!!!! This is you in a nutshell.
      - computerthings 1y ago
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      - ch4s3 1y ago
        This is a really disingenuous comment. I have correctly pointed out that Assage, who was not a US person or residing in the US and not jailed int he US was credibly accused of illegally accessing government data. I have also noted that I do not like the US government prosecuting journalists, which is the opposite of what you are claiming that I am saying. This is wholly different from locking someone up for political speech. The US factually is not disappearing citizens for political speech.
        buyucu 1y ago
        It is exactly the same thing, it just happens that you like throwing people you dislike into jail. You are just a hypocrite.

It seem by all account imaginably worse in China, particularly in Xinjiang. I might also call to attention the disappearance from western social media of a prominent Chinese maker. I'm also unaware of anyone in the US being sent to prison for political speech online.

buyucu 1y ago
Julian Assange might disagree with that.
- ch4s3 1y ago
  What exactly did he say online that got him accused of espionage? I seem to remember the issue being that he was accused of conspiring with Manning to release classified documents, and possibly gaining unauthorized access to congressional records via an exploit in the systems access controls. I don't like the idea of the US government hounding journalists who work with leakers, but Assange was always tiptoeing up to and possibly just past laws unrelated to speech. I not a simple and straightforward case and does not prove that the US is like China in terms of censorship. You can be jailed in China for simply talking about the Tienanmen Square massacre or implying Taiwanese sovereignty, nothing comparable happens in the US.
  - buyucu 1y ago
    When China throws people into prison, it's authoritarianism. When America does it, it's for FREEDOM!!!! This is you in a nutshell.
    - computerthings 1y ago
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    - ch4s3 1y ago
      This is a really disingenuous comment. I have correctly pointed out that Assage, who was not a US person or residing in the US and not jailed int he US was credibly accused of illegally accessing government data. I have also noted that I do not like the US government prosecuting journalists, which is the opposite of what you are claiming that I am saying. This is wholly different from locking someone up for political speech. The US factually is not disappearing citizens for political speech.
      - buyucu 1y ago
        It is exactly the same thing, it just happens that you like throwing people you dislike into jail. You are just a hypocrite.