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> Finding the line between “good” and “bad” people is pretty easy Who is going to draw that line? You? Should we just divide the population up now and make the

> Finding the line between “good” and “bad” people is pretty easy Who is going to draw that line? You? Should we just divide the population up now and make the bad people wear a little badge? People are complex and not intrinsically good or intrinsically bad. Just the idea that there are wholly good people and wholly bad people is kind of disgusting, and I would not want someone in charge who believed in this wild oversimplification. There are good people who commit crimes, and bad people who don't. Let's not be so quick to "easily" judge and label them.

jacquesm 1y ago
> Should we just divide the population up now and make the bad people wear a little badge? People are complex and not intrinsically good or intrinsically bad. That was tried at some point, but it didn't quite have the effect that the proponents of that scheme hoped for. Unfortunately we didn't learn a thing, or so it seems.
rayiner 1y ago
> Who is going to draw that line? You? That’s why we have courts? > People are complex and not intrinsically good or intrinsically bad. Just the idea that there are wholly good people and wholly bad people is kind of disgusting This seems like a religious belief. I’m not going to argue religion with you, but the data shows that 2/3 of all crime is committed by just 1% of people: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3969807 https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3969807 (“The majority of violent crimes are perpetrated by a small number of persistent violent offenders, typically males, characterized by early onset of violent criminality, substance abuse, personality disorders, and nonviolent criminality.”). El Salvador dropped the homicide rate by a factor of 50 in a decade by imprisoning just 2% of the population. Let’s say we can’t go that fast because we have due process and whatnot. But once someone is convicted of a violent crime, why can’t we just double the sentences to keep them off the streets longer? I’d even be willing to make the prisons nice, like in Norway. The point is to get them off the streets.

jacquesm 1y ago

> Should we just divide the population up now and make the bad people wear a little badge? People are complex and not intrinsically good or intrinsically bad. That was tried at some point, but it didn't quite have the effect that the proponents of that scheme hoped for. Unfortunately we didn't learn a thing, or so it seems.

rayiner 1y ago

> Who is going to draw that line? You? That’s why we have courts? > People are complex and not intrinsically good or intrinsically bad. Just the idea that there are wholly good people and wholly bad people is kind of disgusting This seems like a religious belief. I’m not going to argue religion with you, but the data shows that 2/3 of all crime is committed by just 1% of people: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3969807 https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3969807 (“The majority of violent crimes are perpetrated by a small number of persistent violent offenders, typically males, characterized by early onset of violent criminality, substance abuse, personality disorders, and nonviolent criminality.”). El Salvador dropped the homicide rate by a factor of 50 in a decade by imprisoning just 2% of the population. Let’s say we can’t go that fast because we have due process and whatnot. But once someone is convicted of a violent crime, why can’t we just double the sentences to keep them off the streets longer? I’d even be willing to make the prisons nice, like in Norway. The point is to get them off the streets.