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> If the military is on the streets, and there is broad support for it, then objectively speaking it's because we're at a tipping point of imbalance in policing

> If the military is on the streets, and there is broad support for it, then objectively speaking it's because we're at a tipping point of imbalance in policing crime. Where is this "broad support" coming from? The actual people living in Washington DC, or rural outsiders who have conjured up some picture in their minds of "crime infested cities?" If you did a poll of everyone in DC, would the majority be in favor of increased policing? It always seems like the people who are most vocal about crime in big cities are always the people who don't live in or visit those big cities.

mrangle 1y ago
I live in a high crime area of a major city.
- nobody9999 1y ago
  Which city? Which "high crime area?" Crime is down all across the US and way down in most major cities. Let's see some statistics, friend. I live in NYC[0] and I'm old. It's never been safer in the many decades I've been alive. And the police have little to do with that. They're just the biggest and best-armed gang. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City[1] [1] In fact, NYC saw fewer murders in 2024 than any year since 1958 -- long before my parents ever met.
  - mrangle 1y ago
    I'm not your friend, palooka. You questioning my experience and where I live isn't an argument. In liberal circles, we "believe" people. Remember? Especially those with bad experiences. You questioning me just means that you can't tolerate people with differing experiences having opinions and perspectives that are counter to your own. What I said is factual. You're a sheltered person with a false entitlement to an opinion on this specific matter. I live in a major city between Boston and DC. I've implied enough of my experience to warrant telling you to shove your rude scare quotes up your a*. I've also lived in NYC. I have family that still lives in NYC. Who was just punched in the face for the second time in a couple of years, walking home at night. And that's in "safe" lower Manhattan. What does where you live have to do where I live? Just like the "person who walks with cameras", the only thing that you are communicating is that you are privileged and awful on a couple of levels. One of which is having zero perspective and real experience living in an urban area that is outside of wealthier zones and, especially in poorer cities, is only barely managed by police. Bourgeoise bubble living does not entitle you to having a policy opinion on how the poorer areas of cities should be managed, what it's like living in them let alone growing up in them, and on how they are doing on the street level. "Relativity" aside.

mrangle 1y ago

I live in a high crime area of a major city.

nobody9999 1y ago
Which city? Which "high crime area?" Crime is down all across the US and way down in most major cities. Let's see some statistics, friend. I live in NYC[0] and I'm old. It's never been safer in the many decades I've been alive. And the police have little to do with that. They're just the biggest and best-armed gang. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City[1] [1] In fact, NYC saw fewer murders in 2024 than any year since 1958 -- long before my parents ever met.
- mrangle 1y ago
  I'm not your friend, palooka. You questioning my experience and where I live isn't an argument. In liberal circles, we "believe" people. Remember? Especially those with bad experiences. You questioning me just means that you can't tolerate people with differing experiences having opinions and perspectives that are counter to your own. What I said is factual. You're a sheltered person with a false entitlement to an opinion on this specific matter. I live in a major city between Boston and DC. I've implied enough of my experience to warrant telling you to shove your rude scare quotes up your a*. I've also lived in NYC. I have family that still lives in NYC. Who was just punched in the face for the second time in a couple of years, walking home at night. And that's in "safe" lower Manhattan. What does where you live have to do where I live? Just like the "person who walks with cameras", the only thing that you are communicating is that you are privileged and awful on a couple of levels. One of which is having zero perspective and real experience living in an urban area that is outside of wealthier zones and, especially in poorer cities, is only barely managed by police. Bourgeoise bubble living does not entitle you to having a policy opinion on how the poorer areas of cities should be managed, what it's like living in them let alone growing up in them, and on how they are doing on the street level. "Relativity" aside.