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So, the critical update here is that Chile are agreeing to letting him leave, provided he donates $30k to charity. That is extremely generous of them, consider

So, the critical update here is that Chile are agreeing to letting him leave, provided he donates $30k to charity. That is extremely generous of them, considering what appears to have been the insanity of his stunt.

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cess11 1y ago
Seems his intention was to get people to donate a million US dollars for him to give to charity.
JumpCrisscross 1y ago
> Chile are agreeing to letting him leave, provided he donates $30k to charity “The prosecutor’s office said Guo must also pay all costs for his ‘aircraft security and personal maintenance’ during his stay at the military facility. He also needs to cover all expenses for his return.” So possibly hundreds of thousands of dollars more. There is also a good chance the FAA revokes his pilot’s license.
- scotty79 1y ago
  It's kind of weird that even though air and flying is associated with ultimate dreamlike freedom it is regulated so stringently even in places where there are basically no humans, no infrastructure, barely even any nature to protect
  - ergsef 1y ago
    There's a lot of nature to protect in Antarctica, and there are very strict rules. This guy is selfishly flaunting those rules and just paying to get rid of the consequences. Considering he's got a personal plane and pilot's license at 19 he obviously has rich parents who can buy his way out of trouble. Donating to charity is not impressive if you're still rich after you donate. Me giving $20 to a homeless person is a bigger blow to my personal wellbeing than this guy's "donation".
    - ryandrake 1y ago
      > This guy is selfishly flaunting those rules and just paying to get rid of the consequences. Heads up: You probably mean he is "flouting" those rules, not "flaunting." Different word.
    - scotty79 1y ago
      > There's a lot of nature to protect in Antarctica I'm sure the entire Chilean military base with all the fuel they burn there and garbage they produce is built there specifically to protect Antarctic nature from occasional idiots in small planes. He obviously can afford it, like the Chilean government could afford to put unnecessary military base there. Somehow when some government is stupidly splurging it's good and fine because they do it in accordance with rules, that they written themselves.
      - netsharc 1y ago
        Do you always talk out of your ass, Scott? In regards to "rules they wrote themselves": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protocol_on_Environmental_Protection_to_the_Antarctic_Treaty https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protocol_on_Environmental_Prot...
        scotty79 1y ago
        And which point of the protocol allows Chile to build a military base there?
        dragonwriter 1y ago
        The base was established in 1969, the protocol was signed in 1991 and entered into force in 1998.
        scotty79 1y ago
        So why is it still there? They should pack up theirs stuff and go back home in 1998 at the latest.
  - throwway120385 1y ago
    Chile has a right to regulate their territorial waters and sky however they see fit. Just because he has a PPL from the US it doesn't give him the right to totally ignore the regulations in a foreign country. Part of international travel is being respectful to the places that you're traveling through, like knowing their laws and customs and not assuming that you can just do whatever you want there because you've got a flight back in a few days.
    - scotty79 1y ago
      Nobody recognizes their right to that part of Antarctic. The only right they have is (local and limited) might.
      - throwway120385 1y ago
        Why are you so personally invested in this?
        scotty79 1y ago
        Because I read too many comments here, by people super seriously invested in some teenager obeying some arbitrary rules far away, over vast swaths of water, both liquid and solid. And it seriously irked me. I know rules are there for a reason. Some are even good and make cooperation between people easier. But when rare edge case happens I hate that the first instinct of random people is to ponder how the rules, established by wealthy and powerful, should be applied with maximum severity to inflict maximum damage on the stupid kid that wanted to stand out. And all this while established international rules regarding war crimes are violated daily. And the criminal suffers no punishment, barely any inconvenience and gets to have a meeting with US president in Alaska, who himself is also a criminal, just not of the war flavor, yet, probably. There was this guy a while back: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathias_Rust https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathias_Rust Young people want to do daring things. Don't crucify them in your minds on behalf of powerful, rich, old farts when they try, if noone got hurt.
        1y ago
  - hollerith 1y ago
    Also, when one plane collides with another, both planes are protected by soft cocoons of freedom, comfort and idealism.
    - scotty79 1y ago
      Cocoons didn't work on January 29th this year. Thank God, no teenager was trying to achieve anything there. Just boring adults doing boring jobs as per rules and regulations.
tim333 1y ago
>insanity of his stunt He flew from one airport to another airport without permission of the local bureaucracies? I mean you get fined for breaking the rules but it doesn't seem that insane.
- insane_dreamer 1y ago
  > another airport not just another airport , a _military_ airport good luck trying that in the US

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cess11 1y ago

Seems his intention was to get people to donate a million US dollars for him to give to charity.

JumpCrisscross 1y ago

> Chile are agreeing to letting him leave, provided he donates $30k to charity “The prosecutor’s office said Guo must also pay all costs for his ‘aircraft security and personal maintenance’ during his stay at the military facility. He also needs to cover all expenses for his return.” So possibly hundreds of thousands of dollars more. There is also a good chance the FAA revokes his pilot’s license.

scotty79 1y ago
It's kind of weird that even though air and flying is associated with ultimate dreamlike freedom it is regulated so stringently even in places where there are basically no humans, no infrastructure, barely even any nature to protect
- ergsef 1y ago
  There's a lot of nature to protect in Antarctica, and there are very strict rules. This guy is selfishly flaunting those rules and just paying to get rid of the consequences. Considering he's got a personal plane and pilot's license at 19 he obviously has rich parents who can buy his way out of trouble. Donating to charity is not impressive if you're still rich after you donate. Me giving $20 to a homeless person is a bigger blow to my personal wellbeing than this guy's "donation".
  - ryandrake 1y ago
    > This guy is selfishly flaunting those rules and just paying to get rid of the consequences. Heads up: You probably mean he is "flouting" those rules, not "flaunting." Different word.
  - scotty79 1y ago
    > There's a lot of nature to protect in Antarctica I'm sure the entire Chilean military base with all the fuel they burn there and garbage they produce is built there specifically to protect Antarctic nature from occasional idiots in small planes. He obviously can afford it, like the Chilean government could afford to put unnecessary military base there. Somehow when some government is stupidly splurging it's good and fine because they do it in accordance with rules, that they written themselves.
    - netsharc 1y ago
      Do you always talk out of your ass, Scott? In regards to "rules they wrote themselves": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protocol_on_Environmental_Protection_to_the_Antarctic_Treaty https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protocol_on_Environmental_Prot...
      - scotty79 1y ago
        And which point of the protocol allows Chile to build a military base there?
        dragonwriter 1y ago
        The base was established in 1969, the protocol was signed in 1991 and entered into force in 1998.
        scotty79 1y ago
        So why is it still there? They should pack up theirs stuff and go back home in 1998 at the latest.
- throwway120385 1y ago
  Chile has a right to regulate their territorial waters and sky however they see fit. Just because he has a PPL from the US it doesn't give him the right to totally ignore the regulations in a foreign country. Part of international travel is being respectful to the places that you're traveling through, like knowing their laws and customs and not assuming that you can just do whatever you want there because you've got a flight back in a few days.
  - scotty79 1y ago
    Nobody recognizes their right to that part of Antarctic. The only right they have is (local and limited) might.
    - throwway120385 1y ago
      Why are you so personally invested in this?
      - scotty79 1y ago
        Because I read too many comments here, by people super seriously invested in some teenager obeying some arbitrary rules far away, over vast swaths of water, both liquid and solid. And it seriously irked me. I know rules are there for a reason. Some are even good and make cooperation between people easier. But when rare edge case happens I hate that the first instinct of random people is to ponder how the rules, established by wealthy and powerful, should be applied with maximum severity to inflict maximum damage on the stupid kid that wanted to stand out. And all this while established international rules regarding war crimes are violated daily. And the criminal suffers no punishment, barely any inconvenience and gets to have a meeting with US president in Alaska, who himself is also a criminal, just not of the war flavor, yet, probably. There was this guy a while back: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathias_Rust https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathias_Rust Young people want to do daring things. Don't crucify them in your minds on behalf of powerful, rich, old farts when they try, if noone got hurt.
        1y ago
- hollerith 1y ago
  Also, when one plane collides with another, both planes are protected by soft cocoons of freedom, comfort and idealism.
  - scotty79 1y ago
    Cocoons didn't work on January 29th this year. Thank God, no teenager was trying to achieve anything there. Just boring adults doing boring jobs as per rules and regulations.

tim333 1y ago

>insanity of his stunt He flew from one airport to another airport without permission of the local bureaucracies? I mean you get fined for breaking the rules but it doesn't seem that insane.

insane_dreamer 1y ago
> another airport not just another airport , a _military_ airport good luck trying that in the US