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In March 2024, Gov. Kathy Hochul of New York, a Democrat, announced that she would deploy 750 members of the National Guard to New York’s subway system. Troops

In March 2024, Gov. Kathy Hochul of New York, a Democrat, announced that she would deploy 750 members of the National Guard to New York’s subway system. Troops in military uniforms patrolled the subway with rifles. Nobody raised an eye and nobody in this thread apparently even remembers. National Guard has deployed to Washington DC dozens of times already - many times to combat crime and disturbances. (Technically hundreds of times if you count inaugurations).

xg15 1y ago
National guard is one thing, effectively private police forces another. The previous examples of that are not good.
- stogot 1y ago
  Arent the police effectively under the governors control already? The DC is different and has a law that allows the federal government to do this. It’s unusual but not illegal and is a feature not a hack. corollary to a governar using both local police + NG
jacquesm 1y ago
The reason why nobody raised an eye then is because the people doing that weren't making all of the pre-requisite moves to set up a dictatorship. It was - of course - still misguided and it didn't work. Trump is using DC either simply 'because he can' (absent any actual reason), or as a trial ground to normalize such deployment to other cities in the future (he tried that once and failed). It also serves as a distraction from his Epstein files woes. March 2024 was a different world than the one we live in today, and if you haven't been following the news for the last 6 months then you are of course excused but if you have been following the news you know that already.
pjc50 1y ago
I think a lot of people were also angry about that, and I think it may be a contributing factor to the success of Mamdani. As part of the feud between state-level and city-level politics, which is pretty intense despite being both nominally "D" because American politics doesn't have enough parties.
AtlasBarfed 1y ago
Did she do Nazi salutes?
- lenkite 1y ago
  [flagged]
hypeatei 1y ago
Did Governor Hochul: 1) Threaten to lockup "homegrowns" in a foreign prison? 2) Arrest people for criticizing the war in Gaza? 3) Use the justice department to further a political agenda? (see Eric Adams case) 4) Revoke security clearances of law firms representing her opponents? Yeah, keep pretending that these two actions are similar and this is just Democrats being hyperbolic again. Trump is using this as revenge against his political opponents since most in DC don't support him. The fact we're still pretending these two parties are the same is unbelievable.
- lenkite 1y ago
  Regarding 2) it is well known that Hochul herself is a strong Israel supporter who has opposed Palestinian protests. She ordered CUNY school Hunter College to remove the Palestinian Studies professor position. Pro-Palestinian protestors have been arrested several times at her events. (Incidentally, I personally support the UN Resolution 181 for a 2-state solution, so I am against the position of the US government - whether Republicans or Democrats)
cherry_tree 1y ago
HN discussion of Hochuls actions at the time: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39629397 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39629397
damnesian 1y ago
The question now is which crimes, which disturbances, or if this is just a gesture of power.
- actionfromafar 1y ago
  Wrongthink of course, is best corrected with tanks.

xg15 1y ago

National guard is one thing, effectively private police forces another. The previous examples of that are not good.

stogot 1y ago
Arent the police effectively under the governors control already? The DC is different and has a law that allows the federal government to do this. It’s unusual but not illegal and is a feature not a hack. corollary to a governar using both local police + NG

jacquesm 1y ago

The reason why nobody raised an eye then is because the people doing that weren't making all of the pre-requisite moves to set up a dictatorship. It was - of course - still misguided and it didn't work. Trump is using DC either simply 'because he can' (absent any actual reason), or as a trial ground to normalize such deployment to other cities in the future (he tried that once and failed). It also serves as a distraction from his Epstein files woes. March 2024 was a different world than the one we live in today, and if you haven't been following the news for the last 6 months then you are of course excused but if you have been following the news you know that already.

pjc50 1y ago

I think a lot of people were also angry about that, and I think it may be a contributing factor to the success of Mamdani. As part of the feud between state-level and city-level politics, which is pretty intense despite being both nominally "D" because American politics doesn't have enough parties.

AtlasBarfed 1y ago

Did she do Nazi salutes?

lenkite 1y ago
[flagged]

hypeatei 1y ago

Did Governor Hochul: 1) Threaten to lockup "homegrowns" in a foreign prison? 2) Arrest people for criticizing the war in Gaza? 3) Use the justice department to further a political agenda? (see Eric Adams case) 4) Revoke security clearances of law firms representing her opponents? Yeah, keep pretending that these two actions are similar and this is just Democrats being hyperbolic again. Trump is using this as revenge against his political opponents since most in DC don't support him. The fact we're still pretending these two parties are the same is unbelievable.

lenkite 1y ago
Regarding 2) it is well known that Hochul herself is a strong Israel supporter who has opposed Palestinian protests. She ordered CUNY school Hunter College to remove the Palestinian Studies professor position. Pro-Palestinian protestors have been arrested several times at her events. (Incidentally, I personally support the UN Resolution 181 for a 2-state solution, so I am against the position of the US government - whether Republicans or Democrats)

cherry_tree 1y ago

HN discussion of Hochuls actions at the time: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39629397 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39629397

damnesian 1y ago

The question now is which crimes, which disturbances, or if this is just a gesture of power.

actionfromafar 1y ago
Wrongthink of course, is best corrected with tanks.