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It is still unclear to me what the author wants to build. The story is cool to the level hippies-on-a-boat can be, but I'm unsure of its message, apart from sof

It is still unclear to me what the author wants to build. The story is cool to the level hippies-on-a-boat can be, but I'm unsure of its message, apart from software requiring internet can be tricky while at seas.

01HNNWZ0MV43FF 1y ago
Yeah. I'm skeptical that software made for 2 people on a boat in international waters is going to generalize to people living on land under the ongoing American situation It's good for them, but the only person I know who owns a boat is richer than me, and I'm already richer than basically all my friends
- poink 1y ago
  I agree with your first paragraph, but there are lots of basically-broke people who live on boats Old sailboats can be had for practically (and in many cases actually) nothing. If you’re reasonably handy and willing to learn you can do all the maintenance they require yourself Boats can be some of the cheapest housing there is, even more so if you want to live somewhere picturesque (There are, of course, significant downsides)
- b_e_n_t_o_n 1y ago
  I've met people who live on boats, they work odd jobs to buy scrap parts to fix their boats themselves and eat mostly fish that they catch. Just like travelling in general, you can basically do it on nothing if you wish.
  - ioseph 1y ago
    I'm sorry but no this is fantasy, unless you plan on everything failing in under decade to actually look after your boat takes money. Even salvaging a boat that's sunk can be very expensive. For example, a through-hull needs replacing. Sure you could find a secondhand one that fits, but you still need to have it hauled out to replace.
    - strken 1y ago
      I have only very brief experience from once owning half of a 15 foot fibreglass runabout fixer-upper, but if you've got a 30 foot yacht then can't you just stick it on a trailer yourself? I feel like you're imagining a much bigger craft.
      - hansvm 1y ago
        On top of that, dry docks are a common free amenity in boating/fishing towns, just using the tide to do your dirty work.
- cess11 1y ago
  They thoroughly document their lives, you could just go check whether this skepticism is warranted.
  - lmm 1y ago
    Very often people doing this kind of thing neglect to mention a significant safety net (e.g. parental wealth) that radically changes the kind of things you can do even when you never touch it.
    - aspenmayer 1y ago
      It’s fair to question the funding sources of lodgings in a pragmatic way, and doubly so when one lives on a boat. In the case of 100R, they seem to have had a lot of help from Patreon folks (per Wikipedia), though I don’t know if this was their sole source of income or funding for their lifestyle. It’s interesting that folks can live like this and share it with the world, and I don’t think that these particular folks have any ulterior motives, and I have not heard anything bad about them. They seem like they’re fairly aboveboard (pun intended). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundred_Rabbits https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundred_Rabbits
    - cess11 1y ago
      "To buy Pino Devine & I each got a 10,000$ bank loan. We had savings, but didn't want to be left with an empty account after the purchase." https://100r.co/site/buying_a_sailboat.html#bankloan https://100r.co/site/buying_a_sailboat.html#bankloan If you go read their logs you'll find that they come across as people that aren't aware of such a "significant safety net" if there is one so even if it exists it is unlikely to have had a relevant influence on their work. They've been excruciatingly open about their experiences and what they've learned along the way, including pecuniary matters.
      - lmm 1y ago
        > If you go read their logs you'll find that they come across as people that aren't aware of such a "significant safety net" if there is one so even if it exists it is unlikely to have had a relevant influence on their work. On the contrary, they read exactly like people in that situation to me. How many people like that do you have experience with?
- swiftcoder 1y ago
  The vast majority of people living on boats are very, very broke. You can buy an old sailboat for about the price of a second-hand car, fix it up yourself, set sail, and now you don't pay rent/mortgage/utilities... (source: I grew up on such a sailboat, and we were broke as shit)
- donkeybeer 1y ago
  These people seem to treat it as hipster bs art and not a means to actually get work done. For real work I'd say the solution is still the same, use tech that doesn't change every week and avoid needing internet for installation such as a package repo we know won't exist a few years later.
jonahx 1y ago
> but I'm unsure of its message My takeaway: Modern software stacks are usually cloud-dependent, and much bigger and more complex than they need to be, especially for offline, low-bandwidth, or low computing power use cases. Small, simple, useful software can be written for these use cases and has ownership and longevity benefits. Not a groundbreaking message, but a true one. And brought home by their interesting cirumstances.
cess11 1y ago
They're building games, interactive fiction and music software, for example. Famously they've invented a rather portable platform for software development that is more like a Commodore 64 or Amiga than MICROS~1 Visual Studio.
mfro 1y ago
s/want/have built: https://100r.co/site/uxn.html https://100r.co/site/uxn.html

01HNNWZ0MV43FF 1y ago

Yeah. I'm skeptical that software made for 2 people on a boat in international waters is going to generalize to people living on land under the ongoing American situation It's good for them, but the only person I know who owns a boat is richer than me, and I'm already richer than basically all my friends

poink 1y ago
I agree with your first paragraph, but there are lots of basically-broke people who live on boats Old sailboats can be had for practically (and in many cases actually) nothing. If you’re reasonably handy and willing to learn you can do all the maintenance they require yourself Boats can be some of the cheapest housing there is, even more so if you want to live somewhere picturesque (There are, of course, significant downsides)
b_e_n_t_o_n 1y ago
I've met people who live on boats, they work odd jobs to buy scrap parts to fix their boats themselves and eat mostly fish that they catch. Just like travelling in general, you can basically do it on nothing if you wish.
- ioseph 1y ago
  I'm sorry but no this is fantasy, unless you plan on everything failing in under decade to actually look after your boat takes money. Even salvaging a boat that's sunk can be very expensive. For example, a through-hull needs replacing. Sure you could find a secondhand one that fits, but you still need to have it hauled out to replace.
  - strken 1y ago
    I have only very brief experience from once owning half of a 15 foot fibreglass runabout fixer-upper, but if you've got a 30 foot yacht then can't you just stick it on a trailer yourself? I feel like you're imagining a much bigger craft.
    - hansvm 1y ago
      On top of that, dry docks are a common free amenity in boating/fishing towns, just using the tide to do your dirty work.
cess11 1y ago
They thoroughly document their lives, you could just go check whether this skepticism is warranted.
- lmm 1y ago
  Very often people doing this kind of thing neglect to mention a significant safety net (e.g. parental wealth) that radically changes the kind of things you can do even when you never touch it.
  - aspenmayer 1y ago
    It’s fair to question the funding sources of lodgings in a pragmatic way, and doubly so when one lives on a boat. In the case of 100R, they seem to have had a lot of help from Patreon folks (per Wikipedia), though I don’t know if this was their sole source of income or funding for their lifestyle. It’s interesting that folks can live like this and share it with the world, and I don’t think that these particular folks have any ulterior motives, and I have not heard anything bad about them. They seem like they’re fairly aboveboard (pun intended). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundred_Rabbits https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundred_Rabbits
  - cess11 1y ago
    "To buy Pino Devine & I each got a 10,000$ bank loan. We had savings, but didn't want to be left with an empty account after the purchase." https://100r.co/site/buying_a_sailboat.html#bankloan https://100r.co/site/buying_a_sailboat.html#bankloan If you go read their logs you'll find that they come across as people that aren't aware of such a "significant safety net" if there is one so even if it exists it is unlikely to have had a relevant influence on their work. They've been excruciatingly open about their experiences and what they've learned along the way, including pecuniary matters.
    - lmm 1y ago
      > If you go read their logs you'll find that they come across as people that aren't aware of such a "significant safety net" if there is one so even if it exists it is unlikely to have had a relevant influence on their work. On the contrary, they read exactly like people in that situation to me. How many people like that do you have experience with?
swiftcoder 1y ago
The vast majority of people living on boats are very, very broke. You can buy an old sailboat for about the price of a second-hand car, fix it up yourself, set sail, and now you don't pay rent/mortgage/utilities... (source: I grew up on such a sailboat, and we were broke as shit)
donkeybeer 1y ago
These people seem to treat it as hipster bs art and not a means to actually get work done. For real work I'd say the solution is still the same, use tech that doesn't change every week and avoid needing internet for installation such as a package repo we know won't exist a few years later.

jonahx 1y ago

> but I'm unsure of its message My takeaway: Modern software stacks are usually cloud-dependent, and much bigger and more complex than they need to be, especially for offline, low-bandwidth, or low computing power use cases. Small, simple, useful software can be written for these use cases and has ownership and longevity benefits. Not a groundbreaking message, but a true one. And brought home by their interesting cirumstances.

cess11 1y ago

They're building games, interactive fiction and music software, for example. Famously they've invented a rather portable platform for software development that is more like a Commodore 64 or Amiga than MICROS~1 Visual Studio.

mfro 1y ago

s/want/have built: https://100r.co/site/uxn.html https://100r.co/site/uxn.html