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Um…Is any one of note in public still talking about that? Way way out of the news cycle now.

zug_zug 1y ago
Really? I saw news about it just today. It's never dropped of my news, from him moving Maxwell to a minimum security prison, to questions about whether he'll pardon her, to the signed letter with illustrations he wrote for Epstein's birthday. I don't think the world will ever forget, certainly my social circles and social media are still buzzing with it. In many ways it's more damning than watergate, though people are debating whether to call it Epsteingate or Pedogate.
- prophesi 1y ago
  Yeah it's been hard for it to leave the news cycle when there are new developments still happening all the time. Latest one being a federal judge denying the request to unseal the transcripts for cases relating to Ghislaine Maxwell. And at least going by Ground News, seems to have been widely covered by outlets today. https://ground.news/article/judge-rejects-unsealing-ghislaine-maxwell-grand-jury-transcripts https://ground.news/article/judge-rejects-unsealing-ghislain...
- kcplate 1y ago
  Meh. DC federal takeover and Trump/Putin Alaska are the dominant news stories on both CNN and MSNBC. There was one story above the fold on MSNBC homepage regarding Trump and Epstein on MSNBC and that story was more about how Vance’s downplaying comments could be read as supportive of more disclosure. Another story well below the fold on Epstein which is more about his victims than Trump. CNN has one story way below the fold on their homepage mentioning Epstein *for subscribers only. The story is effectively dead. Whatever legs people thought this had are effectively gone except for the rabid progressives who just want anything they can to damage Trump…or the Qanon crowds. In my opinion, those two folks belong together and can enjoy their alignment, two ends of the horseshoe.
beeflet 1y ago
Yes. Based on talking to people like you IRL, I don't think democrats understand how big the epstein situation is. Revealing the epstein docs/list was a major selling point for the q-anon/conspiracy voters during the election. This is the first major controversy that puts trump against a sizable majority of his supporters, which are becoming disillusioned. We are reaching a nixon-esque turning point where the cover up is worse than the crime.
- righthand 1y ago
  It pairs well with being convicted in NY state by a jury of his peers for other sexual crimes.
  - kcplate 1y ago
    Did that happen in the same universe as the Sinbad “Shazam” movie? I keep getting all these multiverses mixed up. Here I thought in this universe he was only found liable in a civil suit about sexual harassment, not convicted in a criminal court for a sexual crime.
- kcplate 1y ago
  > This is the first major controversy that puts trump against a sizable majority of his supporters, which are becoming disillusioned Which means exactly what? What political alternative do the whackado Qanon/ultraMAGAs have? Certainly not the democrats—they are so far out of alignment with MAGA that any Epstein disappointment looks mild in comparison. Sure…UltraMAGA may frustrated with Trump but they will never get a chance to vote for him again to express that disappointment. So they will be faced with a choice of a GOP candidate who will run on much of Trumps politics (but won’t be him) and a democrat party that appears now to be tacking further left in to the socialism waters as its new bearing.

Really? I saw news about it just today. It's never dropped of my news, from him moving Maxwell to a minimum security prison, to questions about whether he'll pardon her, to the signed letter with illustrations he wrote for Epstein's birthday. I don't think the world will ever forget, certainly my social circles and social media are still buzzing with it. In many ways it's more damning than watergate, though people are debating whether to call it Epsteingate or Pedogate.

prophesi 1y ago
Yeah it's been hard for it to leave the news cycle when there are new developments still happening all the time. Latest one being a federal judge denying the request to unseal the transcripts for cases relating to Ghislaine Maxwell. And at least going by Ground News, seems to have been widely covered by outlets today. https://ground.news/article/judge-rejects-unsealing-ghislaine-maxwell-grand-jury-transcripts https://ground.news/article/judge-rejects-unsealing-ghislain...
kcplate 1y ago
Meh. DC federal takeover and Trump/Putin Alaska are the dominant news stories on both CNN and MSNBC. There was one story above the fold on MSNBC homepage regarding Trump and Epstein on MSNBC and that story was more about how Vance’s downplaying comments could be read as supportive of more disclosure. Another story well below the fold on Epstein which is more about his victims than Trump. CNN has one story way below the fold on their homepage mentioning Epstein *for subscribers only. The story is effectively dead. Whatever legs people thought this had are effectively gone except for the rabid progressives who just want anything they can to damage Trump…or the Qanon crowds. In my opinion, those two folks belong together and can enjoy their alignment, two ends of the horseshoe.

beeflet 1y ago

Yes. Based on talking to people like you IRL, I don't think democrats understand how big the epstein situation is. Revealing the epstein docs/list was a major selling point for the q-anon/conspiracy voters during the election. This is the first major controversy that puts trump against a sizable majority of his supporters, which are becoming disillusioned. We are reaching a nixon-esque turning point where the cover up is worse than the crime.

righthand 1y ago
It pairs well with being convicted in NY state by a jury of his peers for other sexual crimes.
- kcplate 1y ago
  Did that happen in the same universe as the Sinbad “Shazam” movie? I keep getting all these multiverses mixed up. Here I thought in this universe he was only found liable in a civil suit about sexual harassment, not convicted in a criminal court for a sexual crime.
kcplate 1y ago
> This is the first major controversy that puts trump against a sizable majority of his supporters, which are becoming disillusioned Which means exactly what? What political alternative do the whackado Qanon/ultraMAGAs have? Certainly not the democrats—they are so far out of alignment with MAGA that any Epstein disappointment looks mild in comparison. Sure…UltraMAGA may frustrated with Trump but they will never get a chance to vote for him again to express that disappointment. So they will be faced with a choice of a GOP candidate who will run on much of Trumps politics (but won’t be him) and a democrat party that appears now to be tacking further left in to the socialism waters as its new bearing.