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> I honestly don't remember when they tried to snare someone to use proprietary extensions to something open. Try using VSCodium legally with the same function

> I honestly don't remember when they tried to snare someone to use proprietary extensions to something open. Try using VSCodium legally with the same functionality as VSCode; remote development, Python language server, C++ debugging, and so on. People who think Microsoft is doing open source work for the good of their hearts are still in for a lesson in EEE. https://github.com/VSCodium/vscodium/blob/master/docs/extensions.md#visual-studio-marketplace https://github.com/VSCodium/vscodium/blob/master/docs/extens... https://github.com/VSCodium/vscodium/blob/master/docs/extensions-compatibility.md https://github.com/VSCodium/vscodium/blob/master/docs/extens... https://github.com/microsoft/vscode-cpptools/wiki/Microsoft-Native-Debugger-licensing-and-Microsoft-Visual-Studio-Code https://github.com/microsoft/vscode-cpptools/wiki/Microsoft-... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguis...

ivanmontillam 1y ago
As GP said: > Long story short: MS isn't a saint. They are a business. And they have behaved relatively nice for so long that some young adults don't know any other side of MS now. They are a business. You seem to misunderstand that businesses cannot behave like charities. Being a business implies being for-profit. Nobody said open source had to be free as in free beer, it just had to be free as in freedom. It's their prerogative to make the plugins marketplace to alternative editors or not. Servers cost money. It's a business. Does Matt Mullenweg has to let WPEngine sap server resources? Arguably not; and this opinion comes from a guy (me) that strongly dislikes WordPress (and by extension: Matt and Automattic).
- yencabulator 1y ago
  I am responding to this: > I honestly don't remember when they tried to snare someone to use proprietary extensions to something open.
- yesbabyyes 1y ago
  Matt Mullenweg did nothing wrong
- sebastialonso 1y ago
  Man, more than two decades of open source and people still don't understand what free as I'm freedom means. It's depressing.
- deleted 1y ago
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thiht 1y ago
These are extensions. No one is preventing OSS communities from developing their own remote dev, Python, and C++ extensions. The VSCode extension API allows it. There are actually some efforts being made to do it.
- yencabulator 1y ago
  You're moving the goalposts! I am responding to > I honestly don't remember when they tried to snare someone to use proprietary extensions to something open.
  - fc417fc802 1y ago
    But ... they literally did that here? I don't think it's malicious in this case. In fact I think they're giving away genuinely useful tools here with no obvious downsides to their use. But I do think it qualifies. Bit like the example of Martin Luther King being a criminal.
- sdenton4 1y ago
  Ah, but coming hot on their heels are the embracions and extingushions!
- nothrabannosir 1y ago
  You’re describing the E in EEE
- croes 1y ago
  I think it's not about the extensions but the market place. You can't use the MS extensions with VS Codium, you are forced to use VS Code.
gmueckl 1y ago
Oh, I honestly didn't remember the VS Code extension shenanigans. Thanks for bringing that up.

ivanmontillam 1y ago

As GP said: > Long story short: MS isn't a saint. They are a business. And they have behaved relatively nice for so long that some young adults don't know any other side of MS now. They are a business. You seem to misunderstand that businesses cannot behave like charities. Being a business implies being for-profit. Nobody said open source had to be free as in free beer, it just had to be free as in freedom. It's their prerogative to make the plugins marketplace to alternative editors or not. Servers cost money. It's a business. Does Matt Mullenweg has to let WPEngine sap server resources? Arguably not; and this opinion comes from a guy (me) that strongly dislikes WordPress (and by extension: Matt and Automattic).

yencabulator 1y ago
I am responding to this: > I honestly don't remember when they tried to snare someone to use proprietary extensions to something open.
yesbabyyes 1y ago
Matt Mullenweg did nothing wrong
sebastialonso 1y ago
Man, more than two decades of open source and people still don't understand what free as I'm freedom means. It's depressing.
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thiht 1y ago

These are extensions. No one is preventing OSS communities from developing their own remote dev, Python, and C++ extensions. The VSCode extension API allows it. There are actually some efforts being made to do it.

yencabulator 1y ago
You're moving the goalposts! I am responding to > I honestly don't remember when they tried to snare someone to use proprietary extensions to something open.
- fc417fc802 1y ago
  But ... they literally did that here? I don't think it's malicious in this case. In fact I think they're giving away genuinely useful tools here with no obvious downsides to their use. But I do think it qualifies. Bit like the example of Martin Luther King being a criminal.
sdenton4 1y ago
Ah, but coming hot on their heels are the embracions and extingushions!
nothrabannosir 1y ago
You’re describing the E in EEE
croes 1y ago
I think it's not about the extensions but the market place. You can't use the MS extensions with VS Codium, you are forced to use VS Code.

gmueckl 1y ago

Oh, I honestly didn't remember the VS Code extension shenanigans. Thanks for bringing that up.