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Somehow, other nations have managed to figure this out. Of the developed world, seemingly only Americans are resigned to the belief that such things are sadly i

Somehow, other nations have managed to figure this out. Of the developed world, seemingly only Americans are resigned to the belief that such things are sadly impossible.

convolvatron 1y ago
the important part of the American system you're not addressing is that it makes sure no one accidentally gets something they don't really deserve.
- lurk2 1y ago
  It has far more to do with respect for private property due to the existence of a class of sophisticated, politically literate professionals capable of opposing development. Europe and Canada are similar; the extent to which this retards the economy is more obvious in Europe. It isn’t hard to build a road when you can just expropriate all the land and completely disregard environmental impacts.
- antisthenes 1y ago
  "no one" = poor people. All the old money already got a ton of wealth they didn't really deserve (conquest through Native american genocide)
- ETH_start 1y ago
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renewiltord 1y ago
That's because we're richer and can object. The Europeans get bulldozed by their governments. It's why they're always protesting some online ID law or some "show your photo ID to browse Wikipedia" shit but no one listens to them.
- stouset 1y ago
  Yes, Europeans are completely distraught over their (checks notes) functioning public transit systems.
  - renewiltord 1y ago
    On time some 65% of the time? The only thing that gets them to stop complaining is knowing that Americans are listening.
    - stouset 1y ago
      Approximately all of the people complaining want improved service, not zero service.
      - renewiltord 1y ago
        Yeah but standards aren’t that high. After all, they do apparently consider 65% on-time as functioning.
        stouset 1y ago
        [citation needed]
        renewiltord 1y ago
        <ref> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44870235</ref>
    - TheCapeGreek 1y ago
      Hmm yes, a perfect system isn't in place so clearly it's far better to have nothing at all.
    - alsetmusic 1y ago
      Second time you used that stat. You really seem to love it.
- joshuaissac 1y ago
  > we're richer and can object > some online ID law Texas and Utah in the US also have similar online age verification laws. Texas is the second richest state in the US by GDP per capita, but even that was not enough.
- OfficeChad 1y ago
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Somehow, other nations have managed to figure this out. Of the developed world, seemingly only Americans are resigned to the belief that such things are sadly impossible.

convolvatron 1y ago

the important part of the American system you're not addressing is that it makes sure no one accidentally gets something they don't really deserve.

lurk2 1y ago
It has far more to do with respect for private property due to the existence of a class of sophisticated, politically literate professionals capable of opposing development. Europe and Canada are similar; the extent to which this retards the economy is more obvious in Europe. It isn’t hard to build a road when you can just expropriate all the land and completely disregard environmental impacts.
antisthenes 1y ago
"no one" = poor people. All the old money already got a ton of wealth they didn't really deserve (conquest through Native american genocide)
ETH_start 1y ago
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renewiltord 1y ago

That's because we're richer and can object. The Europeans get bulldozed by their governments. It's why they're always protesting some online ID law or some "show your photo ID to browse Wikipedia" shit but no one listens to them.

stouset 1y ago
Yes, Europeans are completely distraught over their (checks notes) functioning public transit systems.
- renewiltord 1y ago
  On time some 65% of the time? The only thing that gets them to stop complaining is knowing that Americans are listening.
  - stouset 1y ago
    Approximately all of the people complaining want improved service, not zero service.
    - renewiltord 1y ago
      Yeah but standards aren’t that high. After all, they do apparently consider 65% on-time as functioning.
      - stouset 1y ago
        [citation needed]
        renewiltord 1y ago
        <ref> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44870235</ref>
  - TheCapeGreek 1y ago
    Hmm yes, a perfect system isn't in place so clearly it's far better to have nothing at all.
  - alsetmusic 1y ago
    Second time you used that stat. You really seem to love it.
joshuaissac 1y ago
> we're richer and can object > some online ID law Texas and Utah in the US also have similar online age verification laws. Texas is the second richest state in the US by GDP per capita, but even that was not enough.
OfficeChad 1y ago
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