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Wait Microsoft was cool at some point?

by throwaway290 1y ago

pjmlp 1y ago
Did you missed the whole Microsoft <3 FOSS, right after Satya took over?
- mightysashiman 1y ago
  did anyone believe it?!
  - palata 1y ago
    All those people who use Linux on their Windows machine instead of just installing a proper Linux distro.
  - leoc 1y ago
    You can see the reactions in 2014: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7524082 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7524082 . Pretty positive overall!
  - ragnese 1y ago
    It was AstroTurfed to hell and back here and on Reddit. I know that much.
  - owebmaster 1y ago
    You can see it very regularly when typescript is mentioned
- jacquesm 1y ago
  No way anybody really believed that. Or did they?
  - throwaway290 1y ago
    Us people who remember EEE didn't
BizarroLand 1y ago
Windows 7 was pretty cool, and XP was practically unbeatable despite its many many flaws.
- wirrbel 1y ago
  I always wonder at these attributions. Like all windows versions gave you bluescreen and ran Microsoft excel. To me not one stood out particularly bad or good compared to the others maybe after Windows 98 service pack something
  - BizarroLand 1y ago
    Windows 98 was so bad when it came to drivers, lol. It had the plug and play standard but that only worked half of the time, and if you messed up by doing something like connecting the peripherals before installing the driver you could BSOD while trying to install the drivers and have to rescue the whole OS. Happened to me enough for me to remember it. And my sister demonstrated how you could delete the recycle bin if you were bad enough at computers, which was fun. I've also had nearly as many kernel panics on OSX or hangs on Linux as I have had BSODs on Windows (when graphed as a ratio of use over time). All OSes have flaws and issues, there would never be a perfect operating system with our current understanding of computers, and that's ok. That being said, my critique does not include OSes that spy on you (for what will be considered a several trillion dollar crime syndicate when this era is written down in history), which is its own entire rant.
  - geon 1y ago
    Win98 was terrible. I used to reinstall it every month or so, as routine maintenance. Win2k was so much better it's not even comparable. XP had a bit of a rough start, but by sp3 it was a lot better than 2k. I skipped the other windows-es until 10. It has been solid.
  - AgentME 1y ago
    Windows Vista got saner permissions support and made the OS survive certain kinds of driver crashes, but on launch a lot of existing software and drivers weren't updated to support those changes so it got a bad reputation. Nobody gave Windows proper credit for these advancements until Windows 7 which had a cleaner launch since most software and drivers were already updated for Vista's changes.
NickC25 1y ago
Yeah. Xbox, GitHub, Sataya's early days embracing open source, Zune (admittedly not cool but i loved the product).

Wait Microsoft was cool at some point?

pjmlp 1y ago

Did you missed the whole Microsoft <3 FOSS, right after Satya took over?

mightysashiman 1y ago
did anyone believe it?!
- palata 1y ago
  All those people who use Linux on their Windows machine instead of just installing a proper Linux distro.
- leoc 1y ago
  You can see the reactions in 2014: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7524082 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7524082 . Pretty positive overall!
- ragnese 1y ago
  It was AstroTurfed to hell and back here and on Reddit. I know that much.
- owebmaster 1y ago
  You can see it very regularly when typescript is mentioned
jacquesm 1y ago
No way anybody really believed that. Or did they?
- throwaway290 1y ago
  Us people who remember EEE didn't

BizarroLand 1y ago

Windows 7 was pretty cool, and XP was practically unbeatable despite its many many flaws.

wirrbel 1y ago
I always wonder at these attributions. Like all windows versions gave you bluescreen and ran Microsoft excel. To me not one stood out particularly bad or good compared to the others maybe after Windows 98 service pack something
- BizarroLand 1y ago
  Windows 98 was so bad when it came to drivers, lol. It had the plug and play standard but that only worked half of the time, and if you messed up by doing something like connecting the peripherals before installing the driver you could BSOD while trying to install the drivers and have to rescue the whole OS. Happened to me enough for me to remember it. And my sister demonstrated how you could delete the recycle bin if you were bad enough at computers, which was fun. I've also had nearly as many kernel panics on OSX or hangs on Linux as I have had BSODs on Windows (when graphed as a ratio of use over time). All OSes have flaws and issues, there would never be a perfect operating system with our current understanding of computers, and that's ok. That being said, my critique does not include OSes that spy on you (for what will be considered a several trillion dollar crime syndicate when this era is written down in history), which is its own entire rant.
- geon 1y ago
  Win98 was terrible. I used to reinstall it every month or so, as routine maintenance. Win2k was so much better it's not even comparable. XP had a bit of a rough start, but by sp3 it was a lot better than 2k. I skipped the other windows-es until 10. It has been solid.
- AgentME 1y ago
  Windows Vista got saner permissions support and made the OS survive certain kinds of driver crashes, but on launch a lot of existing software and drivers weren't updated to support those changes so it got a bad reputation. Nobody gave Windows proper credit for these advancements until Windows 7 which had a cleaner launch since most software and drivers were already updated for Vista's changes.

NickC25 1y ago

Yeah. Xbox, GitHub, Sataya's early days embracing open source, Zune (admittedly not cool but i loved the product).