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What about Wine? Is that still a thing? Visual Studio Code seems to be their big open source push, besides GitHub. Everyone uses it, and most development envir

by EGreg 1y ago

What about Wine? Is that still a thing? Visual Studio Code seems to be their big open source push, besides GitHub. Everyone uses it, and most development environments and UX are based on it. Used to be Atom, I remember.

benterix 1y ago
> Visual Studio Code ... open source Pick one.
- echoangle 1y ago
  They meant VS Code (which is at least partially open source).
- kube-system 1y ago
  https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/blob/main/LICENSE.txt https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/blob/main/LICENSE.txt
madeofpalk 1y ago
I don't understand how VS Code is an "open source push". It's technically open source, but open source doesn't seem to be strategically important to it.
- beached_whale 1y ago
  Not all of it is OSS. The core language servers are closed, I think.
kaladin-jasnah 1y ago
Wine is still active, but I think mostly with Valve's proton, if that's the Wine you're talking about.
radlad 1y ago
Pedantic, but VS Code does not share a lineage with Atom, besides the fact that it is built on Electron (which was, admittedly, originally built for Atom.)
- EGreg 1y ago
  I meant Atom used to be the base, and now it's VSCode
  - radlad 1y ago
    VS Code was not based on Atom's code base.
    - EGreg 1y ago
      I didn't say it was!
      - deleted 1y ago
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    - roelschroeven 1y ago
      What EGreg is saying is that most development environments and UX used to be based on Atom, while they are now based on VS Code. EGreg didn't mean to say that VS Code used to be Atom, or is based on Atom, though I agree his wording was a bit ambiguous and it could be interpreted that way.
      - radlad 1y ago
        Oh interesting. This claim makes more sense, but I'm actually surprised by it too - my memory of things is that Sublime Text 2 (released 2012) was one of the most popular editors for scripting languages (JS, PHP, Python, etc.) However, there was a long period of inactivity before Sublime Text 3 was released (2017) with support for Python 3 plugins, and ST was getting stale as Python 2 was slowly phased out. During that time, Atom was released (2014). But I don't recall it ever being especially popular - at least outside of the JS ecosystem. For one thing, it was kind of slow on release (people still complain about Electron!) and while it offered a lot of customization, these customization often seemed to worsen its performance. It was VS Code that really seemed to draw a wider audience from my perspective. That said, I switched to vim around the time Atom came out, so I may be out of touch. I doubt there are any solid stats anywhere...
vkazanov 1y ago
Valve's steam deck runs on Linux/Wine. Wine is more popular than ever.
tannhaeuser 1y ago
Wine, as part of Proton/SteamOS is a huge success.
jajuuka 1y ago
Heard of Apple Game Porting Toolkit? That's built on the back of Wine. Microsoft has been open sourcing a bunch of their programs for a while now too. Majority are inconsequential but they are still nice to see. People on Linux OS's are excited about Microsoft calculator being open source but these open source projects still show that some people there have interest in the push.

by EGreg 1y ago

benterix 1y ago

> Visual Studio Code ... open source Pick one.

echoangle 1y ago
They meant VS Code (which is at least partially open source).
kube-system 1y ago
https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/blob/main/LICENSE.txt https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/blob/main/LICENSE.txt

madeofpalk 1y ago

I don't understand how VS Code is an "open source push". It's technically open source, but open source doesn't seem to be strategically important to it.

beached_whale 1y ago
Not all of it is OSS. The core language servers are closed, I think.

kaladin-jasnah 1y ago

Wine is still active, but I think mostly with Valve's proton, if that's the Wine you're talking about.

radlad 1y ago

Pedantic, but VS Code does not share a lineage with Atom, besides the fact that it is built on Electron (which was, admittedly, originally built for Atom.)

EGreg 1y ago
I meant Atom used to be the base, and now it's VSCode
- radlad 1y ago
  VS Code was not based on Atom's code base.
  - EGreg 1y ago
    I didn't say it was!
    - deleted 1y ago
      [deleted]
  - roelschroeven 1y ago
    What EGreg is saying is that most development environments and UX used to be based on Atom, while they are now based on VS Code. EGreg didn't mean to say that VS Code used to be Atom, or is based on Atom, though I agree his wording was a bit ambiguous and it could be interpreted that way.
    - radlad 1y ago
      Oh interesting. This claim makes more sense, but I'm actually surprised by it too - my memory of things is that Sublime Text 2 (released 2012) was one of the most popular editors for scripting languages (JS, PHP, Python, etc.) However, there was a long period of inactivity before Sublime Text 3 was released (2017) with support for Python 3 plugins, and ST was getting stale as Python 2 was slowly phased out. During that time, Atom was released (2014). But I don't recall it ever being especially popular - at least outside of the JS ecosystem. For one thing, it was kind of slow on release (people still complain about Electron!) and while it offered a lot of customization, these customization often seemed to worsen its performance. It was VS Code that really seemed to draw a wider audience from my perspective. That said, I switched to vim around the time Atom came out, so I may be out of touch. I doubt there are any solid stats anywhere...

vkazanov 1y ago

Valve's steam deck runs on Linux/Wine. Wine is more popular than ever.

tannhaeuser 1y ago

Wine, as part of Proton/SteamOS is a huge success.

jajuuka 1y ago

Heard of Apple Game Porting Toolkit? That's built on the back of Wine. Microsoft has been open sourcing a bunch of their programs for a while now too. Majority are inconsequential but they are still nice to see. People on Linux OS's are excited about Microsoft calculator being open source but these open source projects still show that some people there have interest in the push.