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No it’s not a mistake. Search social media and you’ll find lots of reports like these. CPS will create absurd and unrealistic rules like the ones you name, spec

No it’s not a mistake. Search social media and you’ll find lots of reports like these. CPS will create absurd and unrealistic rules like the ones you name, specifically because they know no parent will meet those standards and it lets them get involved. If they bring police, the police will simply back up their rules even though they know it’s absurd. The type of people who work in CPS are often unhinged types already, and they do this to justify their existence on the taxpayer’s dime. Just remember you don’t need to talk to them or let them into your home. Anything you say or they see is evidence they can use against you. Force them to go get a court order or warrant.

potato3732842 1y ago
Government as an institution suffers from the same staffing problem that homelessness does. The good ones are up and out.
jimt1234 1y ago
> Just remember you don’t need to talk to them or let them into your home. Unfortunately, not in California: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40381801 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40381801
- aidenn0 1y ago
  IANAL, but my understanding of CA law is that it's more complicated than that: 1. Just like the police, they can only go in without a warrant if they have a reasonable belief that there is imminent danger to a child. They must have a specific thing in mind, not just "vibes." Bringing your child to the door to show them they are fine would often be sufficient to quash that (but you can't do that if your child isn't home). 2. Refusing to be interviewed by CPS and/or denying them access to your children can be used against you in family court (unlike when you are being interrogated by the police). 3. From the ACLU of SoCal(https://www.aclusocal.org/en/know-your-rights/california-child-welfare-investigations-101 https://www.aclusocal.org/en/know-your-rights/california-chi...): > If there is no warrant and no emergency and you do not want to allow the investigator in your home, you can say something like, “Sorry, this isn’t a good time for me, but I’d be happy to schedule a visit on a later date.” By offering an alternative date like the next day or later in the week, you can plan to be more prepared for a visit, but also show cooperation. If you refuse any visit, that can be used as evidence against you later in the investigation. Depending on the situation, follow-up visits can take place either at home or the CPS office.

potato3732842 1y ago

Government as an institution suffers from the same staffing problem that homelessness does. The good ones are up and out.

jimt1234 1y ago

> Just remember you don’t need to talk to them or let them into your home. Unfortunately, not in California: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40381801 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40381801

aidenn0 1y ago
IANAL, but my understanding of CA law is that it's more complicated than that: 1. Just like the police, they can only go in without a warrant if they have a reasonable belief that there is imminent danger to a child. They must have a specific thing in mind, not just "vibes." Bringing your child to the door to show them they are fine would often be sufficient to quash that (but you can't do that if your child isn't home). 2. Refusing to be interviewed by CPS and/or denying them access to your children can be used against you in family court (unlike when you are being interrogated by the police). 3. From the ACLU of SoCal(https://www.aclusocal.org/en/know-your-rights/california-child-welfare-investigations-101 https://www.aclusocal.org/en/know-your-rights/california-chi...): > If there is no warrant and no emergency and you do not want to allow the investigator in your home, you can say something like, “Sorry, this isn’t a good time for me, but I’d be happy to schedule a visit on a later date.” By offering an alternative date like the next day or later in the week, you can plan to be more prepared for a visit, but also show cooperation. If you refuse any visit, that can be used as evidence against you later in the investigation. Depending on the situation, follow-up visits can take place either at home or the CPS office.