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I didn't dig through the infinite scroll (ironic on a page about designs) but I'm surprised more than half of them weren't dedicated to obfuscating the prices,

I didn't dig through the infinite scroll (ironic on a page about designs) but I'm surprised more than half of them weren't dedicated to obfuscating the prices, as has been the vast majority of my experience with trying to figure out how much money I need to give anyone <font size=small>call us</font> <h3>let's talk!</h3> or my other pet peeve https://lucidic.ai/#:~:text=Get%20started%20for%20free https://lucidic.ai/#:~:text=Get%20started%20for%20free aka don't worry about it until you like it!

pc86 1y ago
They do have "contact sales" as a filter option which is nice if you're looking for examples of that. It only has one (not that great IMO) example though.
- finniansturdy 1y ago
  Agreed, some got dropped so will be addressing this! Appreciate the comment
Terretta 1y ago
WITHOUT ever speaking to anyone on the phone or by email, you can scale even $1M a month and get auto-scaled (very deep) discounts with big providers like AWS who certainly have enough "enterprise sales" to waste everyone's time on the phone, suggesting there's no good reason to make anyone talk to your SaaS if they don't have to. If they have to, because they don't know how to use what they buy, that's one thing. But don't force a call to, let's say, sign in with OIDC or turn on audit logs.
yread 1y ago
Yeah, I'm looking for some GRC compliance software and there are so many vendor with pricing page that just has 3 columns of Call us! Why even bother?
- bluGill 1y ago
  They bother because they don't want competitors to price match or beat their prices. if the prices (and changes are hard to learn about they think they can compete better). I'm not sure if it is worth it - many do go elsewhere to find clear pricing, but they think it matters.
  - dylan604 1y ago
    It also means that the price isn't fixed, and that a good negotiator might be able to get a lower price than someone else. The whole "call us" also typically lowers the noise on the vendor's end as well. Anyone willing to take time out to contact them would be a much better chance of closing a sale. They are what would be known as the "good leads". If you're a user and researching multiple vendors with similar services/products/apps that have decent $$$ attached, you'd be a fool to not contact and only pay the price on the tin.
    - sturadnidge 1y ago
      I agree re: quality of leads, but also wonder how many sales are lost to competitors _with_ advertised pricing purely because the user didn't want the hassle of talking to sales (maybe not purely, but you get the gist).
      - dylan604 1y ago
        Depending on the business, that could be a customer you wouldn't want anyways. Customers looking solely for lowest price tend to be nightmare customers that would in the long run be more expensive as a customer than just not having them as a customer at all. Companies that seek to convert every single potential sale and feel a non-sale is a net loss tend to be the companies that I as a potential customer do not want to be a customer of. They tend to have shite customer support anyways. At the end of the day, the "contact us" pricing clearly is not something that ends companies, otherwise nobody would use it.
        kelnos 1y ago
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pc86 1y ago

They do have "contact sales" as a filter option which is nice if you're looking for examples of that. It only has one (not that great IMO) example though.

finniansturdy 1y ago
Agreed, some got dropped so will be addressing this! Appreciate the comment

Terretta 1y ago

WITHOUT ever speaking to anyone on the phone or by email, you can scale even $1M a month and get auto-scaled (very deep) discounts with big providers like AWS who certainly have enough "enterprise sales" to waste everyone's time on the phone, suggesting there's no good reason to make anyone talk to your SaaS if they don't have to. If they have to, because they don't know how to use what they buy, that's one thing. But don't force a call to, let's say, sign in with OIDC or turn on audit logs.

yread 1y ago

Yeah, I'm looking for some GRC compliance software and there are so many vendor with pricing page that just has 3 columns of Call us! Why even bother?

bluGill 1y ago
They bother because they don't want competitors to price match or beat their prices. if the prices (and changes are hard to learn about they think they can compete better). I'm not sure if it is worth it - many do go elsewhere to find clear pricing, but they think it matters.
- dylan604 1y ago
  It also means that the price isn't fixed, and that a good negotiator might be able to get a lower price than someone else. The whole "call us" also typically lowers the noise on the vendor's end as well. Anyone willing to take time out to contact them would be a much better chance of closing a sale. They are what would be known as the "good leads". If you're a user and researching multiple vendors with similar services/products/apps that have decent $$$ attached, you'd be a fool to not contact and only pay the price on the tin.
  - sturadnidge 1y ago
    I agree re: quality of leads, but also wonder how many sales are lost to competitors _with_ advertised pricing purely because the user didn't want the hassle of talking to sales (maybe not purely, but you get the gist).
    - dylan604 1y ago
      Depending on the business, that could be a customer you wouldn't want anyways. Customers looking solely for lowest price tend to be nightmare customers that would in the long run be more expensive as a customer than just not having them as a customer at all. Companies that seek to convert every single potential sale and feel a non-sale is a net loss tend to be the companies that I as a potential customer do not want to be a customer of. They tend to have shite customer support anyways. At the end of the day, the "contact us" pricing clearly is not something that ends companies, otherwise nobody would use it.
      - kelnos 1y ago
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