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It’s always disappointing to me, as someone who does not want to eat meat, when I see the vegetarian option is a beyond burger, the most aesthetically similar m

It’s always disappointing to me, as someone who does not want to eat meat, when I see the vegetarian option is a beyond burger, the most aesthetically similar meat analogue they could think of. Not to call out Beyond Meat specifically. I stopped eating the Burger King veggie burger when they switched from their Morningstar patties to the Impossible Whopper.

EGreg 1y ago
As a meat eater I can tell you that for me I just need to feel something substantial and somewhat large I can bite into and that doesnt give way right away. Something seared on a flame. Maybe a nice savory flavor too. So for example biting into celery or bread with a crust gives that feeling. Whereas salads and rice, small beans etc. lack these elements. It’s just some mushy mass of small things going into your mouth, you don’t get to really use your teeth much at all. So it’s not really the burger aspect at all for me. As a chef I could probably whip up a lot of vegetarian options that scratch that itch for carnivorous humans.
- 112233 1y ago
  I think I understand what you mean. I.e. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajapsandali https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajapsandali for me is a very "meaty" dish despite having none, while "pirates" kids' pork sausage from Lidl is not "meaty", despite being almost meat-only.
- sneak 1y ago
  I think this is just a personal preference and has nothing to do with meat. I was a meat eater for many years and love meat, but even then I would go for weeks sometimes when I was busy on just Soylent meal replacement shakes (which are vegan, and liquid, so no biting at all). It’s just a habit, what you’re used to. You can adjust.
  - EGreg 1y ago
    I mean, most of what you do in life is a habit. Diogenes of Sinope lived in a barrel. Your ancestors lived without electricity, some without running water. If you want to drastically cut down on wasteful spending today, I remember a great blog: https://www.mrmoneymustache.com/blog/ https://www.mrmoneymustache.com/blog/ In any case, humans do seem to need the vitamins and minerals in meat, but if the animal is older then this can cause them to age faster as well over time.
wenc 1y ago
I didn't know BK stopped offering veggie burgers. There used to be the Veggie burger and the Impossible Whopper, and they were two completely different products. As a meat eater, I'm a big fan of the Impossible Whopper. It does taste different from the regular Whopper, but it's just as good. That's how good Impossible is (better than Beyond any day). Neither are healthy, but if I had to stop eating meat, I would have no trouble with the Impossible Whopper.
- zahlman 1y ago
  > That's how good Impossible is (better than Beyond any day). I can remember at Beyond's IPO, thinking "wait, wtf guys, this isn't the one trying all the complex stuff to simulate meat, this is the other one, what are you doing funding this?"
sneak 1y ago
Impossible’s product is a zillion times better than Beyond’s. It’s a mistake to conflate them. I’m glad Beyond is going away, hopefully this means the people who were serving them switch to Impossible, which is actually good.

EGreg 1y ago

As a meat eater I can tell you that for me I just need to feel something substantial and somewhat large I can bite into and that doesnt give way right away. Something seared on a flame. Maybe a nice savory flavor too. So for example biting into celery or bread with a crust gives that feeling. Whereas salads and rice, small beans etc. lack these elements. It’s just some mushy mass of small things going into your mouth, you don’t get to really use your teeth much at all. So it’s not really the burger aspect at all for me. As a chef I could probably whip up a lot of vegetarian options that scratch that itch for carnivorous humans.

112233 1y ago
I think I understand what you mean. I.e. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajapsandali https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajapsandali for me is a very "meaty" dish despite having none, while "pirates" kids' pork sausage from Lidl is not "meaty", despite being almost meat-only.
sneak 1y ago
I think this is just a personal preference and has nothing to do with meat. I was a meat eater for many years and love meat, but even then I would go for weeks sometimes when I was busy on just Soylent meal replacement shakes (which are vegan, and liquid, so no biting at all). It’s just a habit, what you’re used to. You can adjust.
- EGreg 1y ago
  I mean, most of what you do in life is a habit. Diogenes of Sinope lived in a barrel. Your ancestors lived without electricity, some without running water. If you want to drastically cut down on wasteful spending today, I remember a great blog: https://www.mrmoneymustache.com/blog/ https://www.mrmoneymustache.com/blog/ In any case, humans do seem to need the vitamins and minerals in meat, but if the animal is older then this can cause them to age faster as well over time.

wenc 1y ago

I didn't know BK stopped offering veggie burgers. There used to be the Veggie burger and the Impossible Whopper, and they were two completely different products. As a meat eater, I'm a big fan of the Impossible Whopper. It does taste different from the regular Whopper, but it's just as good. That's how good Impossible is (better than Beyond any day). Neither are healthy, but if I had to stop eating meat, I would have no trouble with the Impossible Whopper.

zahlman 1y ago
> That's how good Impossible is (better than Beyond any day). I can remember at Beyond's IPO, thinking "wait, wtf guys, this isn't the one trying all the complex stuff to simulate meat, this is the other one, what are you doing funding this?"

sneak 1y ago

Impossible’s product is a zillion times better than Beyond’s. It’s a mistake to conflate them. I’m glad Beyond is going away, hopefully this means the people who were serving them switch to Impossible, which is actually good.