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It very well could be AI generated. Many legal offices are using LLMs these days. What's the alternative here? A rapper went to the effort to publish an MV, th

It very well could be AI generated. Many legal offices are using LLMs these days. What's the alternative here? A rapper went to the effort to publish an MV, then figured out how to display a fake disabled message in the vehicle, then faked a C&D, knowing that these actions would give Tesla a very legitimate claim against them? Ockham's razor is not favorable to the alternative.

eurleif 1y ago
"You really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?"
slg 1y ago
A rapper who wanted to promote their video created a fake C&D and corresponding warning video, uploaded the video to Youtube, parked his car on the highway, and played the video on the screen all as a "prank" to promote said video. You could do that all in an afternoon. That doesn't seem that unbelievable, especially considering half the runtime of the linked video is an ad for his music. I mean the guy is already at a buying a Cybertruck and rapping about it level of needing attention. Is stretching the truth for promotion really that big of a step from there?
- crooked-v 1y ago
  I feel like if that was the angle the song would have been anti-Tesla to use that as part of the whole thing, and not 'I am cool because I have this cool and expensive car'.
  - slg 1y ago
    This doesn't have to be some elaborate plan. What I described could be accomplished in an afternoon, maybe after the initial pro-Tesla release didn't get enough attention.
    - prawn 1y ago
      Doesn't matter if it's simple. What you're suggesting goes completely against the guy's vibe. No one finding him as a new fan is going to be "I can't wait to be a fan of a guy who acted tough/rich and then got stranded roadside by faking a video." I'd be surprised if someone with the gumption to play-act like this in a music video would enjoy completely flipping things to play victim, rather than finding some other attention-grabbing scheme.
      - slg 1y ago
        If your entire argument rests around the implied inconsistency of a rapper's "vibe", it doesn't sound like you have a very strong argument. Odds are we'll eventually know the truth, but early indications are that I am right.[1] [1] - https://www.theverge.com/tesla/757594/tesla-cybertruck-deactivated-viral-video-fake https://www.theverge.com/tesla/757594/tesla-cybertruck-deact...
- AlotOfReading 1y ago
  It seems like a straightforward defamation case for Tesla if the whole thing is fake.
  - slg 1y ago
    And remotely disabling a vehicle as it is being driven seems like a straightforward lawsuit if this whole thing is true. Who is more likely to make a stupid legal mistake that opens themselves up to a lawsuit, the random musician or the legal department of one of the biggest companies on the planet?
    - AlotOfReading 1y ago
      IP lawyers take dubious and aggressive measures to defend their clients without fully considering the implications of their actions all the time.
      - slg 1y ago
        And remotely disabling a moving vehicle is so commonplace at this company that even the IP lawyers have direct access to that functionality without any oversight? This potential lawsuit is getting easier and easier.
        AlotOfReading 1y ago
        I suspect we'll find out in short order since Tesla can pretty trivially deny that it happened and it's probably going to be picked up by a lot of media.
teraflop 1y ago
I'm kind of 50/50 on it being fake. Either Tesla or the rapper is doing something insanely stupid that opens them up to a lot of legal liability, and to be honest, both of those options seem quite plausible.
cnst 1y ago
Tesla's screen is just a computer that can play YouTube and any other videos. Just upload a video to YouTube, open up on Tesla, enable full-screen, done. Not even any hacking or any tech knowledge required. Literally anyone can generate and print a letter. Finding the name of the legal counsel is just a LinkedIn search away. 100% fake. Especially USPS and email thing.
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eurleif 1y ago

"You really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?"

slg 1y ago

A rapper who wanted to promote their video created a fake C&D and corresponding warning video, uploaded the video to Youtube, parked his car on the highway, and played the video on the screen all as a "prank" to promote said video. You could do that all in an afternoon. That doesn't seem that unbelievable, especially considering half the runtime of the linked video is an ad for his music. I mean the guy is already at a buying a Cybertruck and rapping about it level of needing attention. Is stretching the truth for promotion really that big of a step from there?

crooked-v 1y ago
I feel like if that was the angle the song would have been anti-Tesla to use that as part of the whole thing, and not 'I am cool because I have this cool and expensive car'.
- slg 1y ago
  This doesn't have to be some elaborate plan. What I described could be accomplished in an afternoon, maybe after the initial pro-Tesla release didn't get enough attention.
  - prawn 1y ago
    Doesn't matter if it's simple. What you're suggesting goes completely against the guy's vibe. No one finding him as a new fan is going to be "I can't wait to be a fan of a guy who acted tough/rich and then got stranded roadside by faking a video." I'd be surprised if someone with the gumption to play-act like this in a music video would enjoy completely flipping things to play victim, rather than finding some other attention-grabbing scheme.
    - slg 1y ago
      If your entire argument rests around the implied inconsistency of a rapper's "vibe", it doesn't sound like you have a very strong argument. Odds are we'll eventually know the truth, but early indications are that I am right.[1] [1] - https://www.theverge.com/tesla/757594/tesla-cybertruck-deactivated-viral-video-fake https://www.theverge.com/tesla/757594/tesla-cybertruck-deact...
AlotOfReading 1y ago
It seems like a straightforward defamation case for Tesla if the whole thing is fake.
- slg 1y ago
  And remotely disabling a vehicle as it is being driven seems like a straightforward lawsuit if this whole thing is true. Who is more likely to make a stupid legal mistake that opens themselves up to a lawsuit, the random musician or the legal department of one of the biggest companies on the planet?
  - AlotOfReading 1y ago
    IP lawyers take dubious and aggressive measures to defend their clients without fully considering the implications of their actions all the time.
    - slg 1y ago
      And remotely disabling a moving vehicle is so commonplace at this company that even the IP lawyers have direct access to that functionality without any oversight? This potential lawsuit is getting easier and easier.
      - AlotOfReading 1y ago
        I suspect we'll find out in short order since Tesla can pretty trivially deny that it happened and it's probably going to be picked up by a lot of media.

teraflop 1y ago

I'm kind of 50/50 on it being fake. Either Tesla or the rapper is doing something insanely stupid that opens them up to a lot of legal liability, and to be honest, both of those options seem quite plausible.

cnst 1y ago

Tesla's screen is just a computer that can play YouTube and any other videos. Just upload a video to YouTube, open up on Tesla, enable full-screen, done. Not even any hacking or any tech knowledge required. Literally anyone can generate and print a letter. Finding the name of the legal counsel is just a LinkedIn search away. 100% fake. Especially USPS and email thing.

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