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Ok, I apologize, but I’ve seen so many fake posts by social media influencers / celebrities at this point that I have to ask: does anyone have a source / verifi

Ok, I apologize, but I’ve seen so many fake posts by social media influencers / celebrities at this point that I have to ask: does anyone have a source / verification that this is actually true? It’s not necessarily that I don’t believe this would be absolutely the par of the course for Elon, I just would like to see a more credible source than a threads post of the rapper. The cease & desist letter in the threads comments looks like it’s AI generated.

franklin_p_dyer 1y ago
+1
_2d30 1y ago
I don’t think you need to be sorry. I don’t believe this at all. I would bet up to $5k through any trusted intermediary at even odds that this story is false.
- prawn 1y ago
  Aha! A chance for the rapper in question to make money from their music!
gnarlouse 1y ago
especially considering that the C&D letter is from August 1st. If it is real, they've been trying to get ahold of him for sometime. It was probably in the terms of service agreement. If it's real, will be an interesting lawsuit.
BLKNSLVR 1y ago
Too many people would want this to be real. It's probably just publicity for bad music from a wannabe rapper - in which case the marketing is actually much better than the music. If it is fake, it's a good one.
AlotOfReading 1y ago
It very well could be AI generated. Many legal offices are using LLMs these days. What's the alternative here? A rapper went to the effort to publish an MV, then figured out how to display a fake disabled message in the vehicle, then faked a C&D, knowing that these actions would give Tesla a very legitimate claim against them? Ockham's razor is not favorable to the alternative.
- eurleif 1y ago
  "You really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?"
- slg 1y ago
  A rapper who wanted to promote their video created a fake C&D and corresponding warning video, uploaded the video to Youtube, parked his car on the highway, and played the video on the screen all as a "prank" to promote said video. You could do that all in an afternoon. That doesn't seem that unbelievable, especially considering half the runtime of the linked video is an ad for his music. I mean the guy is already at a buying a Cybertruck and rapping about it level of needing attention. Is stretching the truth for promotion really that big of a step from there?
  - crooked-v 1y ago
    I feel like if that was the angle the song would have been anti-Tesla to use that as part of the whole thing, and not 'I am cool because I have this cool and expensive car'.
    - slg 1y ago
      This doesn't have to be some elaborate plan. What I described could be accomplished in an afternoon, maybe after the initial pro-Tesla release didn't get enough attention.
      - prawn 1y ago
        Doesn't matter if it's simple. What you're suggesting goes completely against the guy's vibe. No one finding him as a new fan is going to be "I can't wait to be a fan of a guy who acted tough/rich and then got stranded roadside by faking a video." I'd be surprised if someone with the gumption to play-act like this in a music video would enjoy completely flipping things to play victim, rather than finding some other attention-grabbing scheme.
duxup 1y ago
Do we think the screen in the video is faked? Hey anything is possible but there is content that's not just "dude said it happened" too.
- bbor 1y ago
  Yeah, that's what gets me, too. Faking a letter would pretty obviously be a bad move legally-speaking, but people make bad moves sometimes. Faking the remote deactivation of the vehicle on the highway, tho... I mean, how would you even begin to do such a thing, even as a software engineer? FWIW: As of two years ago[1], owners were not able to remotely disable their own cars. Not finding any indication that that has changed. [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaModel3/comments/16ebp1t/can_a_tesla_be_disconnected_remotely_in_case_of/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaModel3/comments/16ebp1t/can_a_...
  - josephcsible 1y ago
    Other comments explained how he faked it without having to remotely disable his car, but the short version is he put the car in Park, then opened YouTube in fullscreen and played a video with a fake Tesla UI with the message he wanted to show.
neom 1y ago
Note that the person who signed it (Dinna Eskin) is on linkedin (I have mutuals), and they've been the VP of legal for 11 months now (Previously Sr Dir of Legal), and this was sent 10 days ago, people like that don't usually make this type of mistake in their correspondence.
charcircuit 1y ago
In the video it shows him stopped in the left lane of the freeway as if the engine stopped. If you look online for other stories where a Tesla is shutting down it will ask the user to pull over. The car can still be operated in the mode at least in a limited state.
senectus1 1y ago
I'm like 99% certain this is bullshit. 1% unsure because.. well, I'm sure I Dont need to explain why.

franklin_p_dyer 1y ago

_2d30 1y ago

I don’t think you need to be sorry. I don’t believe this at all. I would bet up to $5k through any trusted intermediary at even odds that this story is false.

prawn 1y ago
Aha! A chance for the rapper in question to make money from their music!

gnarlouse 1y ago

especially considering that the C&D letter is from August 1st. If it is real, they've been trying to get ahold of him for sometime. It was probably in the terms of service agreement. If it's real, will be an interesting lawsuit.

BLKNSLVR 1y ago

Too many people would want this to be real. It's probably just publicity for bad music from a wannabe rapper - in which case the marketing is actually much better than the music. If it is fake, it's a good one.

AlotOfReading 1y ago

It very well could be AI generated. Many legal offices are using LLMs these days. What's the alternative here? A rapper went to the effort to publish an MV, then figured out how to display a fake disabled message in the vehicle, then faked a C&D, knowing that these actions would give Tesla a very legitimate claim against them? Ockham's razor is not favorable to the alternative.

eurleif 1y ago
"You really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?"
slg 1y ago
A rapper who wanted to promote their video created a fake C&D and corresponding warning video, uploaded the video to Youtube, parked his car on the highway, and played the video on the screen all as a "prank" to promote said video. You could do that all in an afternoon. That doesn't seem that unbelievable, especially considering half the runtime of the linked video is an ad for his music. I mean the guy is already at a buying a Cybertruck and rapping about it level of needing attention. Is stretching the truth for promotion really that big of a step from there?
- crooked-v 1y ago
  I feel like if that was the angle the song would have been anti-Tesla to use that as part of the whole thing, and not 'I am cool because I have this cool and expensive car'.
  - slg 1y ago
    This doesn't have to be some elaborate plan. What I described could be accomplished in an afternoon, maybe after the initial pro-Tesla release didn't get enough attention.
    - prawn 1y ago
      Doesn't matter if it's simple. What you're suggesting goes completely against the guy's vibe. No one finding him as a new fan is going to be "I can't wait to be a fan of a guy who acted tough/rich and then got stranded roadside by faking a video." I'd be surprised if someone with the gumption to play-act like this in a music video would enjoy completely flipping things to play victim, rather than finding some other attention-grabbing scheme.

duxup 1y ago

Do we think the screen in the video is faked? Hey anything is possible but there is content that's not just "dude said it happened" too.

bbor 1y ago
Yeah, that's what gets me, too. Faking a letter would pretty obviously be a bad move legally-speaking, but people make bad moves sometimes. Faking the remote deactivation of the vehicle on the highway, tho... I mean, how would you even begin to do such a thing, even as a software engineer? FWIW: As of two years ago[1], owners were not able to remotely disable their own cars. Not finding any indication that that has changed. [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaModel3/comments/16ebp1t/can_a_tesla_be_disconnected_remotely_in_case_of/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaModel3/comments/16ebp1t/can_a_...
- josephcsible 1y ago
  Other comments explained how he faked it without having to remotely disable his car, but the short version is he put the car in Park, then opened YouTube in fullscreen and played a video with a fake Tesla UI with the message he wanted to show.

neom 1y ago

Note that the person who signed it (Dinna Eskin) is on linkedin (I have mutuals), and they've been the VP of legal for 11 months now (Previously Sr Dir of Legal), and this was sent 10 days ago, people like that don't usually make this type of mistake in their correspondence.

charcircuit 1y ago

In the video it shows him stopped in the left lane of the freeway as if the engine stopped. If you look online for other stories where a Tesla is shutting down it will ask the user to pull over. The car can still be operated in the mode at least in a limited state.

senectus1 1y ago

I'm like 99% certain this is bullshit. 1% unsure because.. well, I'm sure I Dont need to explain why.