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Some of the Ukrainians might move to Russia.

toomuchtodo 1y ago
Not enough to matter. The war ends when Putin dies or runs out of soldiers to throw into the grinder. > The numbers that Russia is now hiding tell a devastating story. In 2024, deaths outnumbered births by roughly 600,000—the steepest natural decline since the COVID-19 pandemic, according to Rosstat (as reported by Bloomberg). Birth rates have plummeted to what may be a 200-year low. Meanwhile, military casualties and emigration have created a demographic hemorrhage that Moscow can no longer spin or minimize: estimates of casualties are upwards of 790,000, according to Russia Matters. > The war has also triggered a massive outflow of human capital from Russia, some 800,000, most of whom are disproportionately young, educated, and urban—having fled to avoid conscription or to express dissent. Those Russian males who remain in Russia face mobilization. Moreover, immigration is not likely to offer relief from these population losses. This is despite Putin's January 2024 enticement, which loosened earlier decrees, of offering Russian citizenship to those who sign military contracts, and most recently his July 2025 decree opening up military service to stateless persons. These are not positive inducements, especially when reports indicate "volunteer" deaths now account for more than those of any other type of Russian soldier. This reflects a growing desperation for new recruits. Once data emerge about who is actually dying in the war, recruitment numbers are likely to decline even further. https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/russias-demographic-vanishing-act-warning-history https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/russias-demographic-v... > Russia’s fertility rate is one of President Vladimir Putin’s obsessions because he sees boosting the population as a way to help restore Russia’s greatness. Putin regularly talks about the sort of demographic trends he would like to see, and sets targets for officials, who inevitably try to solve the problem with financial incentives and new bans. To gain the president’s favor, officials seeking demographic results are even willing to damage the economy and the social order. … > In Putin’s mind, boosting the fertility rate is closely linked with his other obsession of regaining territory once controlled by the Soviet Union and the Russian Empire. Indeed, these two issues are the twin pillars of the whole Putin project, which sees itself as healing Russia’s historical trauma. https://carnegieendowment.org/russia-eurasia/politika/2025/02/russia-demographic-politics https://carnegieendowment.org/russia-eurasia/politika/2025/0... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Russia
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Not enough to matter. The war ends when Putin dies or runs out of soldiers to throw into the grinder. > The numbers that Russia is now hiding tell a devastating story. In 2024, deaths outnumbered births by roughly 600,000—the steepest natural decline since the COVID-19 pandemic, according to Rosstat (as reported by Bloomberg). Birth rates have plummeted to what may be a 200-year low. Meanwhile, military casualties and emigration have created a demographic hemorrhage that Moscow can no longer spin or minimize: estimates of casualties are upwards of 790,000, according to Russia Matters. > The war has also triggered a massive outflow of human capital from Russia, some 800,000, most of whom are disproportionately young, educated, and urban—having fled to avoid conscription or to express dissent. Those Russian males who remain in Russia face mobilization. Moreover, immigration is not likely to offer relief from these population losses. This is despite Putin's January 2024 enticement, which loosened earlier decrees, of offering Russian citizenship to those who sign military contracts, and most recently his July 2025 decree opening up military service to stateless persons. These are not positive inducements, especially when reports indicate "volunteer" deaths now account for more than those of any other type of Russian soldier. This reflects a growing desperation for new recruits. Once data emerge about who is actually dying in the war, recruitment numbers are likely to decline even further. https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/russias-demographic-vanishing-act-warning-history https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/russias-demographic-v... > Russia’s fertility rate is one of President Vladimir Putin’s obsessions because he sees boosting the population as a way to help restore Russia’s greatness. Putin regularly talks about the sort of demographic trends he would like to see, and sets targets for officials, who inevitably try to solve the problem with financial incentives and new bans. To gain the president’s favor, officials seeking demographic results are even willing to damage the economy and the social order. … > In Putin’s mind, boosting the fertility rate is closely linked with his other obsession of regaining territory once controlled by the Soviet Union and the Russian Empire. Indeed, these two issues are the twin pillars of the whole Putin project, which sees itself as healing Russia’s historical trauma. https://carnegieendowment.org/russia-eurasia/politika/2025/02/russia-demographic-politics https://carnegieendowment.org/russia-eurasia/politika/2025/0... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Russia

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