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This is only the first step in the process. First they will force all messaging/email providers to implement the scanning. Those who refuse or decide to leave t

This is only the first step in the process. First they will force all messaging/email providers to implement the scanning. Those who refuse or decide to leave the EU as Signal said they would do, would end up being unlisted from Google Play or the Apple (EU) app store. Then the second phase is coming by 2030. Read about the ProtectEU (what a fucking ridiculous name) proposal which will mandate the scanning on device and basically record everything you do on your device. This will be forced on Apple and other manufacturers directly.

cbeach 1y ago
ProtectEU sounds incredibly dark. Do you have a source for the information regarding on-device scanning? I had a look but only found the bureaucrat-speak overview and they didn’t discuss details.
- nickslaughter02 1y ago
  I don't know about scanning (that's the goal of this proposal - ChatControl - including scanning of storage*) but ProtectEU involves creating hardware and software backdoors. * https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/chat-control/ https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/chat-control/ , see the table "The Chat Control 2.0 proposal in detail" Technical experts call on Commissioner Virkkunen for a seat on the table of the European Commission’s Technology Roadmap on encryption https://edri.org/our-work/technical-experts-call-on-virkkunen-for-a-seat-on-the-table-european-commissions-technology-roadmap-on-encryption/ https://edri.org/our-work/technical-experts-call-on-virkkune... Concluding report of the High-Level Group on access to data for effective law enforcement https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/document/download/4802e306-c364-4154-835b-e986a9a49281_en?filename=Concluding%20Report%20of%20the%20HLG%20on%20access%20to%20data%20for%20effective%20law%20enforcement_en.pdf* https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/document/download/4802e306...
pakitan 1y ago
> Read about the ProtectEU (what a fucking ridiculous name) proposal which will mandate the scanning on device and basically record everything you do on your device. Where can we read about that? The official documents are quite vague and I don't see anything as specific as mandatory device scanning.
- nickslaughter02 1y ago
  I don't know about scanning (that's the goal of this proposal - ChatControl - including scanning of storage*) but ProtectEU involves creating hardware and software backdoors. * https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/chat-control/ https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/chat-control/ , see the table "The Chat Control 2.0 proposal in detail" Technical experts call on Commissioner Virkkunen for a seat on the table of the European Commission’s Technology Roadmap on encryption https://edri.org/our-work/technical-experts-call-on-virkkunen-for-a-seat-on-the-table-european-commissions-technology-roadmap-on-encryption/ https://edri.org/our-work/technical-experts-call-on-virkkune... Concluding report of the High-Level Group on access to data for effective law enforcement https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/document/download/4802e306-c364-4154-835b-e986a9a49281_en?filename=Concluding%20Report%20of%20the%20HLG%20on%20access%20to%20data%20for%20effective%20law%20enforcement_en.pdf* https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/document/download/4802e306...
throwaway274592 1y ago
ProtectRegime

cbeach 1y ago

ProtectEU sounds incredibly dark. Do you have a source for the information regarding on-device scanning? I had a look but only found the bureaucrat-speak overview and they didn’t discuss details.

nickslaughter02 1y ago
I don't know about scanning (that's the goal of this proposal - ChatControl - including scanning of storage*) but ProtectEU involves creating hardware and software backdoors. * https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/chat-control/ https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/chat-control/ , see the table "The Chat Control 2.0 proposal in detail" Technical experts call on Commissioner Virkkunen for a seat on the table of the European Commission’s Technology Roadmap on encryption https://edri.org/our-work/technical-experts-call-on-virkkunen-for-a-seat-on-the-table-european-commissions-technology-roadmap-on-encryption/ https://edri.org/our-work/technical-experts-call-on-virkkune... Concluding report of the High-Level Group on access to data for effective law enforcement https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/document/download/4802e306-c364-4154-835b-e986a9a49281_en?filename=Concluding%20Report%20of%20the%20HLG%20on%20access%20to%20data%20for%20effective%20law%20enforcement_en.pdf* https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/document/download/4802e306...

pakitan 1y ago

> Read about the ProtectEU (what a fucking ridiculous name) proposal which will mandate the scanning on device and basically record everything you do on your device. Where can we read about that? The official documents are quite vague and I don't see anything as specific as mandatory device scanning.

nickslaughter02 1y ago
I don't know about scanning (that's the goal of this proposal - ChatControl - including scanning of storage*) but ProtectEU involves creating hardware and software backdoors. * https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/chat-control/ https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/chat-control/ , see the table "The Chat Control 2.0 proposal in detail" Technical experts call on Commissioner Virkkunen for a seat on the table of the European Commission’s Technology Roadmap on encryption https://edri.org/our-work/technical-experts-call-on-virkkunen-for-a-seat-on-the-table-european-commissions-technology-roadmap-on-encryption/ https://edri.org/our-work/technical-experts-call-on-virkkune... Concluding report of the High-Level Group on access to data for effective law enforcement https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/document/download/4802e306-c364-4154-835b-e986a9a49281_en?filename=Concluding%20Report%20of%20the%20HLG%20on%20access%20to%20data%20for%20effective%20law%20enforcement_en.pdf* https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/document/download/4802e306...

throwaway274592 1y ago

ProtectRegime