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I did an introduction into the basics of linguistics in secondary school and something my teacher pointed out that a rule of thumb is that common phrases or wor
by djtango 1y ago
I did an introduction into the basics of linguistics in secondary school and something my teacher pointed out that a rule of thumb is that common phrases or words are the most likely to break grammatical rules.
He then told me a story about a language that was invented to be perfectly regular, and then there was a generation of native speakers of this artificial language and the first thing that happened was common phrases became irregular.
I believe the language must be Esperanto but I'm struggling to find a reference to this anecdote
- Nezteb 1y agoI spent 20 minutes looking for an Esperanto reference to this but could only find pages related to "in" words [1] and profane neologisms [2]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto_vocabulary#Cultural_%22in%22_words https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto_vocabulary#Cultural_... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto_profanity#Neologisms https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto_profanity#Neologisms
- DamnInteresting 1y agoI know someone whose work is cited in the "Try and" paper, and she asked me to pass this along in response to your comment: > Feel free to let djtango know that the paper they're looking for is Bergen (2001), "Nativization processes in L1 Esperanto". It's a minor classic and deserves any attention it gets! I searched for the title, and this PDF was among the top matches: https://pages.ucsd.edu/~bkbergen/papers/NEJCL.pdf https://pages.ucsd.edu/~bkbergen/papers/NEJCL.pdf
- djtango 1y agoJust saw this - thanks for sharing