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>>I doubt the USSR had such power solely on its own. It depends mostly on the will of parents (and grandparents) and the type of a young person. That is a pure

>>I doubt the USSR had such power solely on its own. It depends mostly on the will of parents (and grandparents) and the type of a young person. That is a pure victim blaming. If the system makes it dangerous to teach your kids your culture, most parents will no do it. Nowadays for singing Ukrainian songs you can go to the russian prison. Imagine what could be under the Stalin rule.

kvemkon 1y ago
I didn't mean to blame victims. I just mean that under totalitarian regime one need to put extra work to compensate the pressure from the state and try to do it wise. Right after the Stalin rule there have been official De-Stalinization and rehabilitation of Gulag prisoners. That's why under USSR I usually don't mean Stalin period. There was no one single and equal USSR whole 70+ years long. Every new party leader is a new era. > singing Ukrainian songs you can go to the russian prison I'm not sure how is this right now, I fear it got worse, but on August 2022 it was possible(*). Russian guitarist performed a Ukrainian song in Ukrainian original in public: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPu5WQKXsjM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPu5WQKXsjM (cut) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82argH8zZXQ&t=1041s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82argH8zZXQ&t=1041s (full, 10.89 million views) And it is not just some beautiful Ukrainian song. It is a prominent "I will not surrender without a fight" (2005). Which sounds provocative enough these days. Yeah, he did not continue doing it again and again, thus it's by no means a prove one can safely practice this on a daily basis. This song must be known by almost every Russian (and Belorussian), since this song was used once Zelensky played the main male role in the rus-ukr movie "Office Romance. Our Time" (2011) remake of the famous 1977 USSR original. OTOH one of the most prominent (former) Ukrainian singers and since 2014 Russian singer Taisia Povaliy could sing her Ukrainian songs on December 2024 at the main State Kremlin Palace in Moscow. (Obviously, because she openly supports the state.) [1] https://www.mk.ru/social/2024/12/11/marshal-kadysheva-buynov-otmetili-yubiley-taisii-povaliy-v-kremle-spela-na-ukrainskom-i-rasplakalas.html https://www.mk.ru/social/2024/12/11/marshal-kadysheva-buynov... (rus.)
- throwaway3060 1y ago
  From what hints I've been able to piece together, suppression of religion may have actually gotten worse during the Krushchev years. So it's not quite as simple as there being ups and downs - different aspects of culture got suppressed in different ways at different times.

kvemkon 1y ago

I didn't mean to blame victims. I just mean that under totalitarian regime one need to put extra work to compensate the pressure from the state and try to do it wise. Right after the Stalin rule there have been official De-Stalinization and rehabilitation of Gulag prisoners. That's why under USSR I usually don't mean Stalin period. There was no one single and equal USSR whole 70+ years long. Every new party leader is a new era. > singing Ukrainian songs you can go to the russian prison I'm not sure how is this right now, I fear it got worse, but on August 2022 it was possible(*). Russian guitarist performed a Ukrainian song in Ukrainian original in public: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPu5WQKXsjM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPu5WQKXsjM (cut) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82argH8zZXQ&t=1041s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82argH8zZXQ&t=1041s (full, 10.89 million views) And it is not just some beautiful Ukrainian song. It is a prominent "I will not surrender without a fight" (2005). Which sounds provocative enough these days. Yeah, he did not continue doing it again and again, thus it's by no means a prove one can safely practice this on a daily basis. This song must be known by almost every Russian (and Belorussian), since this song was used once Zelensky played the main male role in the rus-ukr movie "Office Romance. Our Time" (2011) remake of the famous 1977 USSR original. OTOH one of the most prominent (former) Ukrainian singers and since 2014 Russian singer Taisia Povaliy could sing her Ukrainian songs on December 2024 at the main State Kremlin Palace in Moscow. (Obviously, because she openly supports the state.) [1] https://www.mk.ru/social/2024/12/11/marshal-kadysheva-buynov-otmetili-yubiley-taisii-povaliy-v-kremle-spela-na-ukrainskom-i-rasplakalas.html https://www.mk.ru/social/2024/12/11/marshal-kadysheva-buynov... (rus.)

throwaway3060 1y ago
From what hints I've been able to piece together, suppression of religion may have actually gotten worse during the Krushchev years. So it's not quite as simple as there being ups and downs - different aspects of culture got suppressed in different ways at different times.