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Yes, the Strix series of AMD uses a similar architecture as M series with massive memory bandwidth and big caches. That results in significantly better perform
by izacus 1y ago
Yes, the Strix series of AMD uses a similar architecture as M series with massive memory bandwidth and big caches.
That results in significantly better performance.
- sidewndr46 1y agoIsn't this the desktop architecture that Torvalds suggested years ago?
- JonChesterfield 1y agoIt basically looks like a games console. Its not a conceptually difficult architecture, "what if the GPU and the CPU had the same memory?". Good things indeed.
- izacus 1y agoI don't know, but it's primarily very expensive to manufacture and hard to make expandable. You can see people in rage due to soldered RAM in this thread. There's always tradeoffs and people propose many things. Selling those things as a product is another game entirely.
- yonisto 1y agoThis how the Amiga worked 40 years ago...
- numpad0 1y agoFaster and bigger SRAM cache is as complicated of a solution as adding moar boosters to your rocket. It works, but expensive. RP2040 uses ~8x more die space as its dual CPU just for the RAM.
- sidewndr46 1y agoDo I misunderstand your message here or are you comparing this desktop machine to an embedded microcontroller from Raspberry Pi Limited?
- schmorptron 1y agoWill we be able to get similar bandwidth with socketed ram with CAMM / LPCAMM modules in the near future?
- topspin 1y agoMaybe, but due to the physics of signal integrity, socketed RAM will always be slower than RAM integrated onto the same PCB as whatever processing element is using it, so by the time CAMM / LPCAMM catches up, some newer integrated RAM solution will be faster yet. This is a matter of physics. It can't be "fixed." Signal integrity is why classic GPU cards have GiBs of integrated RAM chips: GPUs with non-upgradeable RAM that people have been happily buying for years now. Today, the RAM requirements of GPU and their applications has become so large that the extra, low cost, slow, socketed RAM is now a false economy. Naturally, therefore, it's being eliminated as PCs evolve into big GPUs, with one flavor or other of traditional ISA processing elements attached.
- cge 1y agoIt’s possible that Apple really did a disservice to soldered RAM by making it a key profit-increasing option for them, exploiting the inability of buyers to buy RAM elsewhere or upgrade later, but in turn making soldered RAM seem like a scam, when it does have fundamental advantages, as you point out. Going from 64 GB to 128 GB of soldered RAM on the Framework Desktop costs €470, which doesn’t seem that much more expensive than fast socketed RAM. Going from 64 GB to 128 GB on a Mac Studio costs €1000.
- topspin 1y agoAsk yourself this: what is the correct markup for delivering this nearly four years before everyone else? Because that's what Apple did, and why customers have been eagerly paying the cost. Let us all know when you've computed that answer. I'll be interested, because I have no idea how to go about it.
- tracker1 1y ago