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In order to use WP8-specific features, developers will need to use a new development model. This is more friction for developers when compared to using comparab

In order to use WP8-specific features, developers will need to use a new development model. This is more friction for developers when compared to using comparable new features in iOS or Android, where the development model is unchanged, but new APIs are utilized. One can only imagine the sorts of bureaucratic infighting within Microsoft as various development tool factions seek to discard the work of factions falling out of favor. In contrast consider how long Apple stuck by Objective-C as its chief development framework.

xradionut 14y ago
> "In order to use WP8-specific features, developers will need to use a new development model. " It's not only the WP8 model. Windows 8 has changed, Server 2012 has changed, and so on... I have so many new keys and downloads available at MSDN, I have to take time to plan what I want to load into a vitual machine and start testing against.
ams6110 14y ago
Apple hasn't really consistenly stuck by Objective-C; they tried to push people in the Java direction for OS X "Cocoa" development maybe about 10 years ago. Never really caught on, though.
- randallu 14y ago
  I thought they didn't believe that people would actually use ObjC compared to newer managed languages (pretty safe bet IMO, but wrong in this case it turns out).
  - ams6110 14y ago
    Actually now that I think about it the the Java stuff must date back to NeXT. Probably a strategy to sell into "the enterprise", which they were pretty hot on at one point.
randallu 14y ago
Apple's engineering group is much smaller than Microsoft's (or probably anyone else's). What's the GDP per engineer at Apple vs any other product company (like MSFT, Google or Samsung)? EDIT: Which is to say, I believe bureaucracy is more likely in larger organizations and that the scale of MSFT's engineering org makes it unmanageable.
- noamsml 14y ago
  IIRC I looked that up, and Google's revenue is about half of MS's for 1/3 the employees, making it about 3/2 the revenue per employee. Not sure about Apple/Samsung.
- markokocic 14y ago
  One could argue that Apple is rather fashion than product company.

xradionut 14y ago

> "In order to use WP8-specific features, developers will need to use a new development model. " It's not only the WP8 model. Windows 8 has changed, Server 2012 has changed, and so on... I have so many new keys and downloads available at MSDN, I have to take time to plan what I want to load into a vitual machine and start testing against.

ams6110 14y ago

Apple hasn't really consistenly stuck by Objective-C; they tried to push people in the Java direction for OS X "Cocoa" development maybe about 10 years ago. Never really caught on, though.

randallu 14y ago
I thought they didn't believe that people would actually use ObjC compared to newer managed languages (pretty safe bet IMO, but wrong in this case it turns out).
- ams6110 14y ago
  Actually now that I think about it the the Java stuff must date back to NeXT. Probably a strategy to sell into "the enterprise", which they were pretty hot on at one point.

randallu 14y ago

Apple's engineering group is much smaller than Microsoft's (or probably anyone else's). What's the GDP per engineer at Apple vs any other product company (like MSFT, Google or Samsung)? EDIT: Which is to say, I believe bureaucracy is more likely in larger organizations and that the scale of MSFT's engineering org makes it unmanageable.

noamsml 14y ago
IIRC I looked that up, and Google's revenue is about half of MS's for 1/3 the employees, making it about 3/2 the revenue per employee. Not sure about Apple/Samsung.
markokocic 14y ago
One could argue that Apple is rather fashion than product company.