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> But I'm not going to chuckle at the hypothetical people we're supposed to pity for wanting this We should. What communists really want is to have their ever
by matheusmoreira 1y ago
> But I'm not going to chuckle at the hypothetical people we're supposed to pity for wanting this
We should.
What communists really want is to have their every need and desire magically provided for, as if they were fundamental rights. In other words, what they truly want is called post-scarcity: the absence of an economy.
Communism and socialism are economic models. There exists scarcity of goods and resources and therefore they must be economized. There's a system that chooses who gets access to said scarce resources.
Socialism is sold to people as
though it was post-scarcity. People think they'd be living comfortable "secure" lives where everything is guaranteed and provided for. Ah yes, the fabled memetic fully automated luxury space communism.
People who buy into this will probably end up doing forced hard labor in a field somewhere should communists actually come to power. They will not get to do what they want, they will work wherever the state puts them to work under penalty of death by firing squad. The state has no choice, anything else means mass starvation and millions of deaths.
Pity is far too lenient a reaction towards such reality distorting naïveté. If left unchecked, they will win elections and actually install socialism in your country.
We have a better chance of achieving post scarcity by collapsing capitalism with relentless automation.
- only-one1701 1y agoIdk the Nordics seem to be doing ok
- dismalaf 1y agoThey're not socialist by the classical definition. They're capitalist countries with social benefits.
- animal_spirits 1y agoAnd then, these strong social safety nets seem to only work well in countries that have highly homogenous populations.
- matheusmoreira 1y agoNordic countries are not socialist regimes. They are free economies with welfare states. Socialism implies state control of the economy, industry and the means of production.
- inglor_cz 1y agoIn the Nordics, the governments don't really try to run the economy. They provide stable environment to their local capitalists, let them do business at their leisure, and then tax their profits. That is a huge difference from the mass experiment with central-command economy that was run in the countries of the Soviet Bloc. Unsurprisingly, ideologues and bureaucrats cannot really create and sustain a competitive economy. That requires a different sort of mentality.
- LtWorf 1y agoThey aren't. They're becoming fascist like the rest of EU.
- mensetmanusman 1y agoNice. They found so much oil for their small country they have saved over a quarter million per citizen. The infinite money glitch has been helpful.
- martindbp 1y agoNordics are very capitalist, come and visit