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If you look at the political tendencies of the elite universities that themselves practice legacy admissions, those tendencies are overwhelmingly to the left of
by philwelch 1y ago
If you look at the political tendencies of the elite universities that themselves practice legacy admissions, those tendencies are overwhelmingly to the left of the American political center. I know it’s popular to make a “no true Scotsman” argument against anyone to the right of Mao Zedong but it’s silly.
- impossiblefork 1y agoSo by what definition of leftist thought could this possibly be okay? Wikipedia has one (ideologies that seek social equality and egalitarianism), which this is clearly incompatible with. It's certainly unacceptable to socialists, communists, anarchists, syndicalists or social democrats. Liberals are not leftists. Liberals are mostly inviolable-property + free-trade type people.
- philwelch 1y agoSoviet Russia was not an egalitarian society, it was a brutal dictatorship governed by an effective ruling class of party members. Mainland China is the same. If that’s your standard of “leftism”, you’re drawing the line somewhere to the far left of any self-proclaimed communist party that has ever held power in any country. This is clearly absurd.
- impossiblefork 1y agoSo you're saying that Soviet Russia doesn't fit the Wikipedia definition of leftism. I don't see how that makes US university professors leftists. What definition of leftism are you using?
- philwelch 1y agoYou’re the commie version of those annoying right wingers who like to start semantic arguments that the Nazis weren’t really right wing. Leftism is an incoherent and false ideology fundamentally unsuited to the governance of human societies. Once you recognize that fact, the hypocrisy of actual leftists will cease to surprise you.
- impossiblefork 1y agoLeftism isn't one ideology. There are many kinds of leftism. But why do you refuse to define it?
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- NewJazz 1y agoI think you are failing to distinguish individual elements of the universities you are commenting on. Administration and faculty are very different people. Admin need faculty for prestige, but faculty need admin for funding. Are a majority of prominent faculty members advocating for legacy admissions?
- philwelch 1y agoYou’re implying that there’s some crypto-right-wing people somewhere in the university and that these people are solely responsible for legacy admissions, but you’re not even willing to state this absurd implication, let alone provide any evidence for it.
- impossiblefork 1y agoI think the thing to understand is that university professors are upper middle class. They are not particularly aligned with the working class or with leftism. They're usually centrists or liberals. I think your confusions stems from believing that liberals are the left. Liberals however, are pro-free trade ultra-propertarians. Liberals are to the right of anti-free trade populists.
- philwelch 1y agoYour “no true Scotsman” argument is tedious and irritating. Please stop annoying me with it.
- impossiblefork 1y agoIt's a no-true-Scotsman argument. Things have definitions. How can you say that they are leftists, when they do not fit the common definitions and you refuse to provide your own?
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