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This may be covered but one absurdity that I came across was https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism When I was a
by Herodotus38 1y ago
This may be covered but one absurdity that I came across was https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
When I was an undergraduate working in a molecular biology lab my two mentors, Andrei and Svetlana were Russian emigrants. Andrei taught me, in the 00s, that he couldn’t do the level of molecular biology in Russia because the downstream effects decades later put them far behind in the technical and cultural knowhow. Genetics was banned.
- baxtr 1y ago> More than 3,000 mainstream biologists were dismissed or imprisoned, and numerous scientists were executed in the Soviet campaign to suppress scientific opponents. Scientists were executed… ok wow
- cowcity 1y ago[flagged]
- jamiek88 1y agoWhat? Wow. There’s a bot for every crackpot now eh?
- H8crilA 1y agoLow quality bots are the most jarring.
- piombisallow 1y ago"Same in the West" lmao, when were scientists executed in the West? The 1500s?
- bdamm 1y agoWho controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.
- Der_Einzige 1y agoOf course HN has tankies.
- TiredOfLife 1y agoAnd lots of them
- pavel_lishin 1y ago> scientists were surely executed in various contexts (same in the West) Name one.
- cowcity 1y agoJulius Rosenburg is an obvious one. The Nazis executed gobs of scientists. And I'm certain I could find other examples if needed, but that is off the top of my head.
- pavel_lishin 1y ago> Julius Rosenburg is an obvious one. Who was executed for being a spy, not for holding unorthodox scientific beliefs.
- cowcity 1y ago[dead]
- qcnguy 1y agoThe National Socialists were socialists so that undermines not reinforces your point: - they implemented communist policies like mass nationalization schemes with some of the resulting "companies" being amongst the largest organizations in the world - they wanted to fully nationalize the entire economy after the war - they passed large amounts of left wing legislation - they, obviously, called themselves socialists constantly. Hitler said "I am a fanatical socialist". - they openly hated capitalism. A big part of their hate for Jews was that they associated Judaism with international capital. Same reason Marx was an anti-semite.
- ponector 1y agoGiordano Bruno
- AnthonyMouse 1y agoHow about one that doesn't predate capitalism?
- Duanemclemore 1y agoThere's a great episode of the podcast The Constant about Lysenkoism. Definitely worth a listen. I can't find the link at the moment, apologies.
- Duanemclemore 1y agoAh, I guess I made up that it was The Constant... what I must have been thinking of is the episode on Lysenkoism by the legendary Melvyn Bragg on In Our Time. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00bw51j https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00bw51j
- Herodotus38 1y agoThanks for the follow up I couldn’t find it!
- Duanemclemore 1y agoApologies for leading you astray at first. I couldn't find it FOR THE LIFE OF ME either. If you guys aren't already fans of In Our Time, I'm delighted to be the one to turn you on to it. It's the Liberal Arts education you didn't get in school... And I say that as someone who GOT a Lib Arts education. There are over a thousand episodes and it's all a brilliant quick study on an unbelievable variety of subjects. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qykl/episodes/player?page=102 https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qykl/episodes/player?pa...
- mindslight 1y agoAwareness of the concept has gained renewed importance in 2025.
- cyberax 1y ago> Genetics was banned. During the 1940-s. And yet it undermined the molecular biology research in the USSR. It's very easy to destroy the institutions of scientific research. I'm sure, nothing like this can happen in the US. It's not possible that people in power will just use theological and ideological reasons to just deny sound scientific results.
- IAmBroom 1y agoI can only assume this is missing the "/s" tag.
- agumonkey 1y agoDid they experience the rule of only studying soviet science ?
- Herodotus38 1y agoNo they were in college in the 80s when things were more open, but Andrei’s point was that compared to a lot of other sciences, molecular biology like cloning genes was decades behind because of the past.