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Im confused. Isn’t the whole premise of Ollama that its locallt ran? What’s the difference or USP when comparing the two.

by biinjo 1y ago

moron4hire 1y ago
That's not the actual tagline being used in the repo. The repo calls itself an alternative to ChatGPT. Whoever submitted the link changed it.
hoppp 1y ago
I think its an alternative because ollama has no UI and its hard to use for non-developers who will never touch the CLI
- simonw 1y ago
  Ollama added a chat UI to their desktop apps a week ago: https://ollama.com/blog/new-app https://ollama.com/blog/new-app
  - apitman 1y ago
    Their new app is closed source right?
    - simonw 1y ago
      Huh, yeah it looks like the GUI component is closed source. Their GitHub version only has the CLI.
      - diggan 1y ago
        I think at this point it's fair to say that most of the stuff Ollama does, is closed source. AFAIK, only the CLI is open source, everything else isn't.
        conradev 1y ago
        Yeah, and they’re also on a forked llama.cpp
      - kanestreet 1y ago
        Yup. They have not even acknowledged the fact that it’s closed, despite a ton of questions. Ppl are downloading it assuming it’s open source only to get a nasty surprise. No mention of it in their blog post announcing the GUI. Plus no new license for it. And no privacy policy. Feels deceptive.
  - accrual 1y ago
    I have been using the Ollama GUI on Windows since release and appreciated its simplicity. It recently received an update that puts a large "Turbo" button in the message box that links to a sign-in page. I'm trying Jan now and am really liking it - it feels friendlier than the Ollama GUI.
    - dcreater 1y ago
      And ollamas founder was on here posting that they are still focused on local inference... I don't see ollama as anything more than a funnel for their subscription now
      - numpad0 1y ago
        I truly don't understand why it's supposed to be the end of the world. They need to monetize eventually, and simultaneously its userbase desireg good inference. It looks a complete win-win to me. Anyone can fork it in case they actually turn evil once it'd happen. I mean, it's not like people enjoy lovely smell of cash burning and bias opinions heavily towards it, or is it like that?

Im confused. Isn’t the whole premise of Ollama that its locallt ran? What’s the difference or USP when comparing the two.

by biinjo 1y ago

Im confused. Isn’t the whole premise of Ollama that its locallt ran? What’s the difference or USP when comparing the two.

moron4hire 1y ago

That's not the actual tagline being used in the repo. The repo calls itself an alternative to ChatGPT. Whoever submitted the link changed it.

hoppp 1y ago

I think its an alternative because ollama has no UI and its hard to use for non-developers who will never touch the CLI

simonw 1y ago
Ollama added a chat UI to their desktop apps a week ago: https://ollama.com/blog/new-app https://ollama.com/blog/new-app
- apitman 1y ago
  Their new app is closed source right?
  - simonw 1y ago
    Huh, yeah it looks like the GUI component is closed source. Their GitHub version only has the CLI.
    - diggan 1y ago
      I think at this point it's fair to say that most of the stuff Ollama does, is closed source. AFAIK, only the CLI is open source, everything else isn't.
      - conradev 1y ago
        Yeah, and they’re also on a forked llama.cpp
    - kanestreet 1y ago
      Yup. They have not even acknowledged the fact that it’s closed, despite a ton of questions. Ppl are downloading it assuming it’s open source only to get a nasty surprise. No mention of it in their blog post announcing the GUI. Plus no new license for it. And no privacy policy. Feels deceptive.
- accrual 1y ago
  I have been using the Ollama GUI on Windows since release and appreciated its simplicity. It recently received an update that puts a large "Turbo" button in the message box that links to a sign-in page. I'm trying Jan now and am really liking it - it feels friendlier than the Ollama GUI.
  - dcreater 1y ago
    And ollamas founder was on here posting that they are still focused on local inference... I don't see ollama as anything more than a funnel for their subscription now
    - numpad0 1y ago
      I truly don't understand why it's supposed to be the end of the world. They need to monetize eventually, and simultaneously its userbase desireg good inference. It looks a complete win-win to me. Anyone can fork it in case they actually turn evil once it'd happen. I mean, it's not like people enjoy lovely smell of cash burning and bias opinions heavily towards it, or is it like that?