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> EV used cars are basically dead batteries. What piddling nonsense. Plenty of outrage in replies. Here's a recent article with some specific figures: After m

> EV used cars are basically dead batteries. What piddling nonsense. Plenty of outrage in replies. Here's a recent article with some specific figures: After more than 250,000 miles, Ford Mustang Mach-E still has 92% battery life. https://electrek.co/2025/07/22/after-250000-miles-this-ford-mustang-mach-e-still-has-92-battery-life/ https://electrek.co/2025/07/22/after-250000-miles-this-ford-... Batteries are rarely dead, they just loose capacity. (And quite slowly at that!!) Resale goes down if you decide there's not enough capacity left and want to sell, but the car is still fine. Eventually, yes, someone might opt to battery swap: for a Tesla that's currently ~$10-20k depending. But in another 10 years? It's quite likely battery prices will have continued to decline, & costs will be less. Flipping the bozo bit on this guy.

bestnameever 1y ago
That 2022 car has maybe 12 more years before the battery will require replacing, assuming it degrades 1% a year so hopefully prices do drop.
- spacedcowboy 1y ago
  I drove 65,000 miles in my ICE car over a period of ~16 years. If the Mustang has 92% left after 250,000 miles driven, I suspect a second hand EV would provably work for me. But I’d never buy a Tesla car. Because of Musk.
- jauntywundrkind 1y ago
  I feel like there's a lot of people who'd be totally fine with an only 240 mile (80%) range car instead of a 300 mile (100%) range car. There's probably plenty of people fine with a 150 mile range car too (50%)!! We don't need every car to be good at long road trips. Yes, some people will want to either replace the battery or get a newer car. But I think, right now, there's wayyy too much fear over battery longjevity, and that folks are way off base about how many miles a pack is good for. And ideally, the expected battery life should be a competitive factor in car buying: Teslas seem to be down almost 2x as much after 250k miles (85% rather than 92%). Different batteries will have different battery lifecycles, and ideally, consumers can help nudge the car makers into caring more, but there needs to be information available for generate that demand-pressure. And also crucial: without battery lifecycle information, FUD is going to dissuade a lot of would-be buyers!

bestnameever 1y ago

That 2022 car has maybe 12 more years before the battery will require replacing, assuming it degrades 1% a year so hopefully prices do drop.

spacedcowboy 1y ago
I drove 65,000 miles in my ICE car over a period of ~16 years. If the Mustang has 92% left after 250,000 miles driven, I suspect a second hand EV would provably work for me. But I’d never buy a Tesla car. Because of Musk.
jauntywundrkind 1y ago
I feel like there's a lot of people who'd be totally fine with an only 240 mile (80%) range car instead of a 300 mile (100%) range car. There's probably plenty of people fine with a 150 mile range car too (50%)!! We don't need every car to be good at long road trips. Yes, some people will want to either replace the battery or get a newer car. But I think, right now, there's wayyy too much fear over battery longjevity, and that folks are way off base about how many miles a pack is good for. And ideally, the expected battery life should be a competitive factor in car buying: Teslas seem to be down almost 2x as much after 250k miles (85% rather than 92%). Different batteries will have different battery lifecycles, and ideally, consumers can help nudge the car makers into caring more, but there needs to be information available for generate that demand-pressure. And also crucial: without battery lifecycle information, FUD is going to dissuade a lot of would-be buyers!