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And yet it is still impossible to find cheap used model 3 for a family member in Germany. Everybody’s telling about massive price drops, but I haven’t seen one
by lnsru 1y ago
And yet it is still impossible to find cheap used model 3 for a family member in Germany. Everybody’s telling about massive price drops, but I haven’t seen one for months.
- rapsey 1y agoIt is just insane how much bad press Tesla gets compared to other car makers. A lot of it huge exaggerations or lies. Tesla recalls millions of vehichles plastered on every major news site. When it is just an over the air software update. Or Tesla the most unreliable car in the world, according to the most respected german organisation, yeah they counted those OTA updates.
- brokencode 1y agoElon drew a huge target on Tesla by going so hard into politics. Truly a lot of people are still pissed off worldwide and want to see him fail. If Tesla doesn’t like it, maybe they should fire him instead of paying him $30B.
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- rapsey 1y agoBad press about Tesla has been a staple since way before his political activities. It was all funded by short sellers.
- watwut 1y agoThey count OTA for everyone. Tesla is being treated like everyone.
- rapsey 1y agoThey are being punished for improving their software. Other car makers mostly abandon their existing models.
- cyberax 1y agoTesla's software is crap. The updates are basically just moving stuff randomly around the screen and maybe adding a game once in a while. For me, the most significant addition within 8 years of owning a Model 3 was the addition of waypoints in the trip planner. That's it. Other car makers simply provide Android Auto/CarPlay and let users pick what they want to run.
- vkou 1y ago> It is just insane how much bad press Tesla gets compared to other car makers. Most of the other car makers weren't promising FSD next year for decades, or have their CEO giving the Roman Salute at MAGA rallies, or regularly having ketamine-fueled affluenza breakdowns on Twitter. Also, their ticker is a truly bizarre memestock. There's easy targets, and there's painting one on your own back.
- Tryk 1y agoIt was a Nazi Salute, two of them.
- jondwillis 1y agoIt’s almost as if there’s things that tip the bias against Tesla! I for one can’t think of A SINGLE reason why anyone or any news outlet could criticize a nicer, more normal, grounded, unproblematic, controversial, or completely good and undeserving company than Tesla. /s There’s so much to like about EVs, and there’s no denying Tesla’s outsized role in bringing practical EVs to market, and kickstarting competition, which is mostly good, despite the tactics and controversy. Trying to leave politics out of it, it’s also undeniable that Elon, in and out of his CEO role at Tesla, has done some really harmful, shitty, trust-destroying things. I think everyone can agree that reality cannot have possibly matched the hyperbole and marketing claims. The overpromising, and therefore untruths, good faith or no, alone are enough for me. The dude’s fingerprints, and everything good and bad (mostly bad for some time now IMO) that come along with it, are all over Tesla.
- thrown-0825 1y agoI dont know if BYD is available in Europe but I find them to be comparable in quality and very affordable.
- nothercastle 1y agoShitty quality too?
- thrown-0825 1y agoabout what you would expect from a modern sedan, i would compare them to a mazda or hyundai
- cyberax 1y agoThey are surprisingly good. I borrowed one (Seal) on a vacation in Armenia, and its quality felt better than in my Model 3. No rattles, panel fit is better, and the general feeling of the interior was nicer. Their long-term reliability is not yet known, though.
- PeterHolzwarth 1y agoA great reminder of the popular press vs the reality of the market.
- watwut 1y agoGerman and American used car prices can differ.
- pbasista 1y agoWhat would you consider to be a cheap enough Tesla Model 3? A quick search on mobile.de shows that a standard range Tesla Model 3 that is about 3 years old and has a mileage of ~100k km costs ~25k euros. A similar Tesla Model Y costs ~30k euros. Those are final prices for end customer with VAT.