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Is anybody buying x86 based laptops nowadays? It seems that there are few advantages over ARM based Windows/Linux or the M-series laptops.
by sys_64738 1y ago
Is anybody buying x86 based laptops nowadays? It seems that there are few advantages over ARM based Windows/Linux or the M-series laptops.
- lenerdenator 1y agoMost people buying laptops, probably. The advantage is all of that legacy software that some process relies on and hasn't been meaningfully updated in 10+ years and won't be ported over to the ARM processors that you damned kids are running on because back in my day we paid for one copy of x86 software and that got us through 10 winters, dammit.
- simmonmt 1y agoUphill both ways
- lenerdenator 1y agoAnd you were thankful to have two uphills. A lot of people didn’t even have that!
- criddell 1y agoI think that's still most of what Dell, HP, and Lenovo sell.
- SwamyM 1y agoMost of corporate America is still primarily using x86 systems.
- wmf 1y agoWindows on ARM doesn't work well and has very low sales.
- unethical_ban 1y agoLink me to a reliable brand of ARM laptop that runs Linux and is high performance! I'm enjoying my framework AMD laptop although the battery life with suspend is miserable.
- mixmastamyk 1y agoUnfortunately the AMD models don't support real sleep, only "nap," like a tablet. Guess how I found out? Our Intel Framework does, although you might need to use Linux to utilize it.
- unethical_ban 1y agoWhy is that? I read something about both Intel and AMD stopping a certain "level" of suspend, I didn't know there was an issue or design shortcoming that affected only AMD.
- mixmastamyk 1y agoNot certain, but it appears the intel pretends it doesn’t support it but the hardware is still there, so Linux can still use it. But the newer AMD truly doesn’t. Both our models are couple of years old now.
- zozbot234 1y agoWhat's the difference between "napping" and sleeping? Once you truly power down all the I/O they should perform about the same. A tablet with all the radios powered down (via airplane mode if necessary) can "nap" for a long time, rivaling any laptop with its proper "sleep".
- mixmastamyk 1y agohttps://en.ittrip.xyz/windows/modern-standby-vs-s3 https://en.ittrip.xyz/windows/modern-standby-vs-s3 There’s a Linux command for listing supported sleep states, but I don’t have it handy.
- mixmastamyk 1y agocat /sys/power/mem_sleep
- sturob 1y ago
- shortrounddev2 1y agoAnyone not buying a macbook, which is still like 70% of the market
- esseph 1y agoAnd it's only that high in the US. Global MacOS share is 15-17% range, in the US it's around 25% (and this is very concentrated in a few niches).
- shortrounddev2 1y agoYeah but I was also thinking of chromebooks, many of which are ARM
- scarface_74 1y agoThis take is about as bad as the old Slashdot take well over a decade ago - “do people still watch TV? I haven’t owned a TV in a decade.”
- drdaeman 1y agoI do. Wanted a discrete GPU and ability to run all the games I love on the go, including those that may want a little bit of GPU performance and don't have a macOS port. Can't realistically do this on non-x86.
- esseph 1y agoThe vast majority of people and companies.
- pjmlp 1y agoAlmost everyone on Windows and BSD/Linux land, the large majority of folks outside US and countries with similar wage levels.